Can someone PLEASE help me with timing?

[DSIOMTW]

So I just got TS4 a handful of days ago, and I'm having a helluva time getting the timing down for control shots. I've searched and read as much as I can, but I still can't figure it out. Can one of you pros just give me a few tips for doing control shots? Do you literally just press the button as quick as possible and let go (that's a tap to me) or do you have to hold it down at all? And what is the timing? Do you tap when the ball bounces, at the highest point after it bounces, or ??

I can get good or perfect timing when hitting against the ball machine on "hard" (which isn't hard at all) but everything goes out the window when playing against real, decent players. 9 out of 10 times I try to do a control shot the ball just pops up and they crush it. Especially on serve returns, so I'm screwed before the point even gets going.

Also, I must really be missing something because I just can't figure something else out either ...

I can do power shots no problem, but when playing good power players it seems like you have to start holding down the button immediately after they hit the ball in order to charge up in time to do a power shot. This means you have to decide to hit a power shot before you really even know what kind of ball they're hitting or where it's going?? This doesn't make sense to me. Hopefully I'm just doing something seriously wrong??

Help?!

[supinesmokey13]

i played you yesterday if you remember the secret to timing is consistently well is to tap the button specifically right after the bouce when the ball is in front you

[ICEMAN_9588]

It also depends on opponent shot's speed.
Control shots are more effective when you have to return an acceleration (or a powerful shot). When you're supposed to "give" the speed and the power to your shots, better using normal shots.

Or, if you still want to use control shots, you just have to wait a little more for the right timing.
It's not easy to handle this technique (I myself still cannot control it perfectly), so it's normal for you to have some problem in the beginning.

[JohnCurveo]

It's important to have a good timing between your brain and your body. You can always go to a doctor

[GeilerPferdBANNED]

So I just got TS4 a handful of days ago, and I'm having a helluva time getting the timing down for control shots. I've searched and read as much as I can, but I still can't figure it out. Can one of you pros just give me a few tips for doing control shots? Do you literally just press the button as quick as possible and let go (that's a tap to me) or do you have to hold it down at all? And what is the timing? Do you tap when the ball bounces, at the highest point after it bounces, or ??

I can get good or perfect timing when hitting against the ball machine on "hard" (which isn't hard at all) but everything goes out the window when playing against real, decent players. 9 out of 10 times I try to do a control shot the ball just pops up and they crush it. Especially on serve returns, so I'm screwed before the point even gets going.

Also, I must really be missing something because I just can't figure something else out either ...

I can do power shots no problem, but when playing good power players it seems like you have to start holding down the button immediately after they hit the ball in order to charge up in time to do a power shot. This means you have to decide to hit a power shot before you really even know what kind of ball they're hitting or where it's going?? This doesn't make sense to me. Hopefully I'm just doing something seriously wrong??

Help?!

Best advice i can give you is sell top spin 4 and wait until top spin 5 comes out.

[supinesmokey13]

not really dont hold the button down you control flat shots using A button unless u have more power or better strokes you use control shots because of control shots power players are the easiest to beat minus the top 2o guys here on itst who use power setups top spin 5 is coming out in the autum that is a long wait for me simply for the fact that i know its coming out then same with AC4 Black flag knowing its coming out in october man i cant wait for these games to come out

[BrushedBigJJ]

So I just got TS4 a handful of days ago, and I'm having a helluva time getting the timing down for control shots. I've searched and read as much as I can, but I still can't figure it out. Can one of you pros just give me a few tips for doing control shots? Do you literally just press the button as quick as possible and let go (that's a tap to me) or do you have to hold it down at all? And what is the timing? Do you tap when the ball bounces, at the highest point after it bounces, or ??

I can get good or perfect timing when hitting against the ball machine on "hard" (which isn't hard at all) but everything goes out the window when playing against real, decent players. 9 out of 10 times I try to do a control shot the ball just pops up and they crush it. Especially on serve returns, so I'm screwed before the point even gets going.

Also, I must really be missing something because I just can't figure something else out either ...

I can do power shots no problem, but when playing good power players it seems like you have to start holding down the button immediately after they hit the ball in order to charge up in time to do a power shot. This means you have to decide to hit a power shot before you really even know what kind of ball they're hitting or where it's going?? This doesn't make sense to me. Hopefully I'm just doing something seriously wrong??

Help?!

First, don't use control shots on returns, if you haven't started holding the button by the time they hit the serve your player will be slow to move and hit poorly.
Second control shot timing is based mostly on how hard the ball is coming at you. Fast, tap way out in front. Slow, much closer to your body.
And third, yes you must choose whether you want to hit a control shot or power shot before you know what your opponent will hit 99% of the time.

[DSIOMTW]

First, don't use control shots on returns, if you haven't started holding the button by the time they hit the serve your player will be slow to move and hit poorly.
Second control shot timing is based mostly on how hard the ball is coming at you. Fast, tap way out in front. Slow, much closer to your body.
And third, yes you must choose whether you want to hit a control shot or power shot before you know what your opponent will hit 99% of the time.

Thanks for the specifics! Just one more follow-up question re: the timing ... when you say "Fast, tap way out in front" are there any hard and fast rules i.e. hit the ball at the bounce (this is how TS3 was if I remember correctly), hit it just after the bounce, hit it at the highest point after it bounces, etc. or is it all variable depending on the ball speed, court position and the players distance from the ball etc.?

[supinesmokey13]

yes you got right after bounce at its highest point for a perfect shot the rule applies in all postions although the speed of the incoming shot does factor in and you have to make sure you in a postion to hit the ball on the rise out in front by using good court postioning to give you self the best possible chance to hit a well timed control shot not matter what postion your in if you prepared you will even master the ability to hit good ones on the run and in defence

[BrushedBigJJ]

First, don't use control shots on returns, if you haven't started holding the button by the time they hit the serve your player will be slow to move and hit poorly.
Second control shot timing is based mostly on how hard the ball is coming at you. Fast, tap way out in front. Slow, much closer to your body.
And third, yes you must choose whether you want to hit a control shot or power shot before you know what your opponent will hit 99% of the time.

Thanks for the specifics! Just one more follow-up question re: the timing ... when you say "Fast, tap way out in front" are there any hard and fast rules i.e. hit the ball at the bounce (this is how TS3 was if I remember correctly), hit it just after the bounce, hit it at the highest point after it bounces, etc. or is it all variable depending on the ball speed, court position and the players distance from the ball etc.?

It's all based on when your player starts his swing, which can be erratic. I'm sure it's better for the ball to be at its highest point, if you don't release/tap when you right before your player starts his swing it will be a bad shot. On slow balls they start their swing late, fast they start it sooner.

[DennieFR1908]

But still Brushed, even with perfect timing I still produce alot of bad shots, especially with topspin control shots. Can you explain this aswell?

[Burna747]

Same question like DennieFR1908... brushed and some others nearly never produce a to short shot but to me it happens very often. Most of the time when my opponent is using a powerfull setup on clay...i hate clay for that!

[BrushedBigJJ]

Same question like DennieFR1908... brushed and some others nearly never produce a to short shot but to me it happens very often. Most of the time when my opponent is using a powerfull setup on clay...i hate clay for that!

But still Brushed, even with perfect timing I still produce alot of bad shots, especially with topspin control shots. Can you explain this aswell?

First the auto positioning system within the game can put you in a bad position which means perfect timing won't help and you can't adjust your player.

Second the game is hard to please. Sometimes it wants you to hold the direction you want to hit for a while and sometimes pick the direction at the last second. If you aim too early the game may think you are trying to move your character and instead of aiming he's moved out of position. And when you aim late the game can detect it as you having slow reflexes and cause your perfect timed ball to be short. Safest places to aim to me are when your player is stopped(which is rare but it happens) or when they get their first burst of speed you then press and hold the direction you want to hit, but if you have to run across the whole court it's not good to aim that early. Of course things can still go wrong.