Realistic Stats

[LokiSharpShootr]

Yow, i was talking to a friend of mine about TS and we´re discussing what would be realistic stats and he came up with this amazing ideia that i want to share with you guys

Maybe we should limit the stats to the Pro ones, like this:
highest serve 90(Roddick)
highest volley 90(Sampras)
highest power 91(Roddick)
highest speed 92(Chang)
highest reflexes 83(Murray)
highest wings FH+BH 172(Agassi)

So what you think??? i think people would stop complaining about unrealistic setups(i hope) and it would make the regular tour more like the SIM one without making it slow and limiting our coaches(no hate i like SIM).

[RainingAmoeba79]

I really like the idea that someone posted which someone posted which says that you must put at least 2 levels in each skill (SV, OFB, and DFB). This will increase the effectiveness of all rounders, while limiting extreme stats. Besides, IR/CPS' effectiveness will be INCREASED in the 90 rules, and it is the most overpowered coach out now.

[SIeeepy]

i actually kind of like this idea! its a nice line of reasoning based on why should our custom characters have stats that the pros don't even have.

[RainingAmoeba79]

i actually kind of like this idea! its a nice line of reasoning based on why should our custom characters have stats that the pros don't even have.

Exactly!

[LokiSharpShootr]

I really like the idea that someone posted which someone posted which says that you must put at least 2 levels in each skill (SV, OFB, and DFB). This will increase the effectiveness of all rounders, while limiting extreme stats. Besides, IR/CPS' effectiveness will be INCREASED in the 90 rules, and it is the most overpowered coach out now.

nahh if you gotta put 2/2/2 then there´s no more welch, and frankly welch is the only build as good(if not better) than IR/CPS, so i guarantee you if we gotta put 2/2/2 then 99% of the tour will be IR/Cps.

[RainingAmoeba79]

I really like the idea that someone posted which someone posted which says that you must put at least 2 levels in each skill (SV, OFB, and DFB). This will increase the effectiveness of all rounders, while limiting extreme stats. Besides, IR/CPS' effectiveness will be INCREASED in the 90 rules, and it is the most overpowered coach out now.

nahh if you gotta put 2/2/2 then there´s no more welch, and frankly welch is the only build as good(if not better) than IR/CPS, so i guarantee you if we gotta put 2/2/2 then 99% of the tour will be IR/Cps.

but welch is overpowered too......

and it would give ir/cps less stamina or power.

[supinesmokey13]

I really like the idea that someone posted which someone posted which says that you must put at least 2 levels in each skill (SV, OFB, and DFB). This will increase the effectiveness of all rounders, while limiting extreme stats. Besides, IR/CPS' effectiveness will be INCREASED in the 90 rules, and it is the most overpowered coach out now.

nahh if you gotta put 2/2/2 then there´s no more welch, and frankly welch is the only build as good(if not better) than IR/CPS, so i guarantee you if we gotta put 2/2/2 then 99% of the tour will be IR/Cps.

but welch is overpowered too......

and it would give ir/cps less stamina or power.

also the pro stat idea would also mean no michael kelly cos even with 18/2 he still has 94 in volley so it wont work besides volleyers are not dominant in this game though when to come up with something that works for everyone

[I_Zooloo_I]

well some ppl think kelly is op

[LokiSharpShootr]

well some ppl think kelly is op

I´ve made a guy with 97 volley(kelly) to test and its ridiculous, your short slice volleys become almost dropshots and with perfect placement.

[supinesmokey13]

well some ppl think kelly is op

I´ve made a guy with 97 volley(kelly) to test and its ridiculous, your short slice volleys become almost dropshots and with perfect placement.

that kelly setup is overpowered and abusive i use 18/2 but that gives 94 volley but still it isnt any easy setup to use when you dont go overboard l with 97 volley that is just abusing and overpowering the setup.

put 18 in sv gets you kelly and intended you to have 94 in volley max. so we could have the rule if you must use kelly it must be 18/2 to start of with then if which one is more overpowered 18 in sv and 2 in DFB otr 18 in sv and 2 in OFB

[LokiSharpShootr]

well some ppl think kelly is op

I´ve made a guy with 97 volley(kelly) to test and its ridiculous, your short slice volleys become almost dropshots and with perfect placement.

that kelly setup is overpowered and abusive i use 18/2 but that gives 94 volley but still it isnt any easy setup to use when you dont go overboard l with 97 volley that is just abusing and overpowering the setup.

put 18 in sv gets you kelly and intended you to have 94 in volley max. so we could have the rule if you must use kelly it must be 18/2 to start of with then if which one is more overpowered 18 in sv and 2 in DFB otr 18 in sv and 2 in OFB

LOL 94 is abusive and overpowered too, easy as hell to volley.

BTW: im a DFB by choice but i dont win points if i dont get perfect timings, SV wins a lot of poinst with good or too soon timing.

[supinesmokey13]

well some ppl think kelly is op

I´ve made a guy with 97 volley(kelly) to test and its ridiculous, your short slice volleys become almost dropshots and with perfect placement.

that kelly setup is overpowered and abusive i use 18/2 but that gives 94 volley but still it isnt any easy setup to use when you dont go overboard l with 97 volley that is just abusing and overpowering the setup.

put 18 in sv gets you kelly and intended you to have 94 in volley max. so we could have the rule if you must use kelly it must be 18/2 to start of with then if which one is more overpowered 18 in sv and 2 in DFB otr 18 in sv and 2 in OFB

LOL 94 is abusive and overpowered too, easy as hell to volley.

BTW: im a DFB by choice but i dont win points if i dont get perfect timings, SV wins a lot of poinst with good or too soon timing.

thats because if you place you volley well if you dont it is still reachable

[Lupi]

Its really an amazing idea!

The pros are made based on their primary strenghts. And at the same time, the game needs to be balanced. So, there are things that a lot of people don´t agree, like Federer´s serve (60), Sampras´ backhand (57), Roddick´s volley (46).

But the strenghts are all there:
Federer´s forehand (93) is one of the best of history;
Sampras is one of the best volleyers of all times (VOL 90);
Roddick´s serve (90 + POW 91) was the fastest until this year, when Karlovic broke his record just by 1 mile of difference.

ITST = Tennis SIM

So I ask you, why should we play with characters that are out of reality?
In future, records will be broken but we are not in the future.

SRV 98/POW 98 , FH 90/BH 90, VOL 100... distant future

[LokiSharpShootr]

Hosts and moderators, what you think about my ideia? i noticed you guys have stayed akwardly quiet on this matter, its a simple ideia, it will remove a lot of the unrealistic setups and it will still let people come up whit great builds.

I would even let my welch go if would make the game fairer but there´s no is way in hell im using a ´´realistic`` player if my opponent is using a 94 volley, or a 98/98 or a 90 speed or a 90/90 wings.

I know we have the SIM tour, and honestly i love the SIM tour, the game might be slower but you can actually see who´s better and who just realies on a OP build. But we cant just let REG tour keep going as it is and im sure a lot of people agree with me on that.

Why do TS3 had a 40/90 stats rule and TS4 dont? its because of Rabari and Welch i guess? then ban these 2 coaches, done i just solved a lot if not all of ITST REG tour problems.

Look i know this isnt as simple as im making it out to be, but hell it doesnt hurt to try does it?

The ATP finals and the season end are coming, after that maybe we can have a rule test tournament? just trying some diferent rules, maybe the 2/2/2 one, maybe my of realistic stats.

Everyone who comes to this website and i mean EVERYONE loves top spin, a lot of people complain that TS4 isnt as good and as realistic as TS3 is, but no one tries to change stuff and when do try to change stuff like Aryg they get bashed, look im not siding with him god forbid i have to download a PDF or have a print of what stats i can use but if a lot of people are complaining maybe they do have a point you know?

BTW: i dont any rule will change the tour so much, who is losing now will continue to lose and the same goes for who wins.

[C4iLL]

TS4 is good as it is, a lot of people don't complain about it. There are almost 10 people who complain here, and a big silent majority who doesn't want changes, and doesn't express their point of view...

Instead of creating these boring topics, just play the game as it is, or find another game (Tennis Elbow on PC is very good, more realistic than TS4, and a lot of updates).