Sim??? what a joke

[djarvik]

As soon as some newcomers started to mention "street fighter" in reference to a tennis game I knew things will get to this.

I don't think its comparable at all, even to the slightest. I "get" all these player, tires etc compassing... I played SF for a long time, a long time ago. But TS games are simply not SF. Same mentality cannot be applied if you ask me. A fantasy fighting game that tries to be a "fantasy" VS a tennis game that is based on a real game and tries to be realistic. Granted, it fails at that, but it still makes an attempt, when SF is clearly doesn't. There is no "cheese" or "sportsmanship" in SF simply because it all based on pure fantasy. There is no point of reference. There is no "real thing".

[PerfectAce]

As soon as some newcomers started to mention "street fighter" in reference to a tennis game I knew things will get to this.

I don't think its comparable at all, even to the slightest. I "get" all these player, tires etc compassing... I played SF for a long time, a long time ago. But TS games are simply not SF. Same mentality cannot be applied if you ask me. A fantasy fighting game that tries to be a "fantasy" VS a tennis game that is based on a real game and tries to be realistic. Granted, it fails at that, but it still makes an attempt, when SF is clearly doesn't. There is no "cheese" or "sportsmanship" in SF simply because it all based on pure fantasy. There is no point of reference. There is no "real thing".

You do not undestand it. You´re such a scrub!!!

[Ex_storma]

U mad bro?

Nops, im just unmasking a troll who wants to appear to have some knowledge of whats he´s saying and when confronted by facts and diferent points of view with actual grounds has one and only answer: U mad bro.

U mad bro?

[KDZaster]

I'm one of the best SF4 players on the planet.
I was seeded top 32 for SF4 this year at Evo World Championships. KDZ.

Saying that a cutthroat mentality towards winning isn't applicable to TS4 because its trying to emulate a real game is more or less a copout, bordering on non-deserved arrogance.

This game is small. This community is small. There are competitive games out there based on real life things that are much bigger than this, and they all embrace the mentality of "Use what's in the game to win. Force the devolper to fix it through constant use."

Madden. $500,000 prize tournaments. More people than we could ever hope to have in their community. Tournaments allow anything overpowered in the game system that was not a game breaking glitch. There are formations that allow a man to run right past the line of scrimage at the start of the play, unimpeded unless you set aside a specific person for him. It is so powerful that EVERY player used it at the top level that year.

UFC. The game also has a community much larger than ours. There was a tactic where when you ground someone, to always go for a submission because success or fail, you always took more stamina from them than you lost. Every player worth his salt did it.

Using what's in the game to your advantage to win is what every competitive game, based on real or fictional things, does. It's called competitve play, playing to win. Remember that dunking used to be called unfair and cheating when it first happened.
Using what has unanimously been found to be a glitch that breaks the game and is uncounterable is called cheating and should be banned.
REGULATING what you personally feel is too strong, and is not a glitch nor an unintended move that shouldn't exist, is called being a scrub.

at the end of the day this is a game. If you want real tennis, grab a racquet.

[LokiSharpShootr]

I'm one of the best SF4 players on the planet.
I was seeded top 32 for SF4 this year at Evo World Championships. KDZ.

Saying that a cutthroat mentality towards winning isn't applicable to TS4 because its trying to emulate a real game is more or less a copout, bordering on non-deserved arrogance.

This game is small. This community is small. There are competitive games out there based on real life things that are much bigger than this, and they all embrace the mentality of "Use what's in the game to win. Force the devolper to fix it through constant use."

Madden. $500,000 prize tournaments. More people than we could ever hope to have in their community. Tournaments allow anything overpowered in the game system that was not a game breaking glitch. There are formations that allow a man to run right past the line of scrimage at the start of the play, unimpeded unless you set aside a specific person for him. It is so powerful that EVERY player used it at the top level that year.

UFC. The game also has a community much larger than ours. There was a tactic where when you ground someone, to always go for a submission because success or fail, you always took more stamina from them than you lost. Every player worth his salt did it.

Using what's in the game to your advantage to win is what every competitive game, based on real or fictional things, does. It's called competitve play, playing to win. Remember that dunking used to be called unfair and cheating when it first happened.
Using what has unanimously been found to be a glitch that breaks the game and is uncounterable is called cheating and should be banned.
REGULATING what you personally feel is too strong, and is not a glitch nor an unintended move that shouldn't exist, is called being a scrub.

at the end of the day this is a game. If you want real tennis, grab a racquet.

1. You play videogames for a living??? if so please go hide, real man go to college, have jobs, go to gym, play sports, you play SF.

2. Congrats from being the top 32(something like that) seeded player, it must feel nice to look in the mirror and know that.

3. I conseder myself a good TS4 player, i have a decent ranking in 360 tour, will i get mad if someone who´s better than me beat? of course i will, but if that someone exploits a game glitch to do it so i´ll just laugh of this person cause its takes no skill to abuse drops or tramline service.

4. I dont play SF, dont like it(only play sports and FPS) so i cant say for sure but it appears to me that in SF is really hard to pull the glitchy and cheesy stuf, in TS4 it isnt, its easy as hell, a huy who has the game for 3 days can do it, so again the article brings little to zero use for ITST.

5. BTW i play tennis for abouts 9 years, almost whent PRO here in brazil but things didnt work out, and when i came here to ITST whas because i wanted to enjoy TS4 in a different standart than the WT, not to hear a self-absored SF PRO(still laughing about it) talk the things here arent right.

[djarvik]

I'm one of the best SF4 players on the planet.
I was seeded top 32 for SF4 this year at Evo World Championships. KDZ.

Saying that a cutthroat mentality towards winning isn't applicable to TS4 because its trying to emulate a real game is more or less a copout, bordering on non-deserved arrogance.

This game is small. This community is small. There are competitive games out there based on real life things that are much bigger than this, and they all embrace the mentality of "Use what's in the game to win. Force the devolper to fix it through constant use."

Madden. $500,000 prize tournaments. More people than we could ever hope to have in their community. Tournaments allow anything overpowered in the game system that was not a game breaking glitch. There are formations that allow a man to run right past the line of scrimage at the start of the play, unimpeded unless you set aside a specific person for him. It is so powerful that EVERY player used it at the top level that year.

UFC. The game also has a community much larger than ours. There was a tactic where when you ground someone, to always go for a submission because success or fail, you always took more stamina from them than you lost. Every player worth his salt did it.

Using what's in the game to your advantage to win is what every competitive game, based on real or fictional things, does. It's called competitve play, playing to win. Remember that dunking used to be called unfair and cheating when it first happened.
Using what has unanimously been found to be a glitch that breaks the game and is uncounterable is called cheating and should be banned.
REGULATING what you personally feel is too strong, and is not a glitch nor an unintended move that shouldn't exist, is called being a scrub.

at the end of the day this is a game. If you want real tennis, grab a racquet.

What you are saying though is that ITST should not exists. Well, you here as am I.

ITST is a niche community, it doesn't cater to everyone and it mostly doesn't cater to Gamers (or should I say Pro gamers). We don't offer or plan to offer any monetary prizes in near future. ITST is a member club. If you want to be a member - you have to follow the rules and regulations set forth. Sure we compete here, it is a competitive environment, but we also try to emulate real life ATP by following its schedule, rules as much as we can. Tennis competitive community where "everything goes" is a non-working formula. We had more then a few examples over the years where people with your mindset attempted to create such communities and they all failed. For the very reasons they wanted to be created. In fact, they had to come here and spam our forums to gain members, only to realize that most simply don't want that type of Tennis experience. They had sign-ups alright, they had initial wave of like-minded players....but all have left, fast.

Tennis is a niche sport that is simply not fun when played with "gamer" set of mind. It quickly becomes old. Especially, like you said, if you like to sometime grab a real racket and go out hit sometimes.

I am not saying you are wrong, I am just saying that so far, that didn't work in Tennis games.

[RainingAmoeba79]

Agree 100% with Djarvik.

[KDZaster]

I'm one of the best SF4 players on the planet.
I was seeded top 32 for SF4 this year at Evo World Championships. KDZ.

Saying that a cutthroat mentality towards winning isn't applicable to TS4 because its trying to emulate a real game is more or less a copout, bordering on non-deserved arrogance.

This game is small. This community is small. There are competitive games out there based on real life things that are much bigger than this, and they all embrace the mentality of "Use what's in the game to win. Force the devolper to fix it through constant use."

Madden. $500,000 prize tournaments. More people than we could ever hope to have in their community. Tournaments allow anything overpowered in the game system that was not a game breaking glitch. There are formations that allow a man to run right past the line of scrimage at the start of the play, unimpeded unless you set aside a specific person for him. It is so powerful that EVERY player used it at the top level that year.

UFC. The game also has a community much larger than ours. There was a tactic where when you ground someone, to always go for a submission because success or fail, you always took more stamina from them than you lost. Every player worth his salt did it.

Using what's in the game to your advantage to win is what every competitive game, based on real or fictional things, does. It's called competitve play, playing to win. Remember that dunking used to be called unfair and cheating when it first happened.
Using what has unanimously been found to be a glitch that breaks the game and is uncounterable is called cheating and should be banned.
REGULATING what you personally feel is too strong, and is not a glitch nor an unintended move that shouldn't exist, is called being a scrub.

at the end of the day this is a game. If you want real tennis, grab a racquet.

1. You play videogames for a living??? if so please go hide, real man go to college, have jobs, go to gym, play sports, you play SF.

2. Congrats from being the top 32(something like that) seeded player, it must feel nice to look in the mirror and know that.

3. I conseder myself a good TS4 player, i have a decent ranking in 360 tour, will i get mad if someone who´s better than me beat? of course i will, but if that someone exploits a game glitch to do it so i´ll just laugh of this person cause its takes no skill to abuse drops or tramline service.

4. I dont play SF, dont like it(only play sports and FPS) so i cant say for sure but it appears to me that in SF is really hard to pull the glitchy and cheesy stuf, in TS4 it isnt, its easy as hell, a huy who has the game for 3 days can do it, so again the article brings little to zero use for ITST.

5. BTW i play tennis for abouts 9 years, almost whent PRO here in brazil but things didnt work out, and when i came here to ITST whas because i wanted to enjoy TS4 in a different standart than the WT, not to hear a self-absored SF PRO(still laughing about it) talk the things here arent right.

I can't even be mad. I have a beautiful fiance, a great career, graduated from a great college, and on the side I turned a hobby into a extra 15,000 a year for playing one weekend every 2 months and wearing a shirt. I get sent on fully paid vacations around the world regularly. I got a 3 week paid vacation to France last year, on top of my sponsorship money.

Im fairly impressed you went pro for a bit, sorry it didn't work out.

Some of us make baseless assumptions about other people's lives, and others are born with lots of talent so they don't have to give up on their lives to become great at what they love.

Djarvik, fair enough. I already said I respect the hello out of what you guys do here. I may not always agree, but ill always respect and appreciate you guys.

[Ex_storma]

KDZ u wanna change itst or what? Whats the point here?

[djarvik]

Same here KDZaster. I meant no disrespect whatsoever. Apologies if it came across this way.
I feel similar to you. I am financially stable, have a beautiful wife and consider myself lucky to be able to donate my time to this site, this hobby, this community and this "idea" and not have to worry what to eat next day or if I will have enough to pay my mortgage or car payment. Tennis runs in my blood I live and breath it and been doing it for over 20 years now. While it sometimes may feel a bit overwhelming, it is always satisfying. It is always a "work in progress" and that is extremely fun for me. On court as well as in ITST.

We have some really cool people as part of our community and I feel some of them are being dismissed and misunderstood a lot. So this type of discussion if kept civilized is actually very good for us. It gives a chance to people to put their point of view across.

[LokiSharpShootr]

I'm one of the best SF4 players on the planet.
I was seeded top 32 for SF4 this year at Evo World Championships. KDZ.

Saying that a cutthroat mentality towards winning isn't applicable to TS4 because its trying to emulate a real game is more or less a copout, bordering on non-deserved arrogance.

This game is small. This community is small. There are competitive games out there based on real life things that are much bigger than this, and they all embrace the mentality of "Use what's in the game to win. Force the devolper to fix it through constant use."

Madden. $500,000 prize tournaments. More people than we could ever hope to have in their community. Tournaments allow anything overpowered in the game system that was not a game breaking glitch. There are formations that allow a man to run right past the line of scrimage at the start of the play, unimpeded unless you set aside a specific person for him. It is so powerful that EVERY player used it at the top level that year.

UFC. The game also has a community much larger than ours. There was a tactic where when you ground someone, to always go for a submission because success or fail, you always took more stamina from them than you lost. Every player worth his salt did it.

Using what's in the game to your advantage to win is what every competitive game, based on real or fictional things, does. It's called competitve play, playing to win. Remember that dunking used to be called unfair and cheating when it first happened.
Using what has unanimously been found to be a glitch that breaks the game and is uncounterable is called cheating and should be banned.
REGULATING what you personally feel is too strong, and is not a glitch nor an unintended move that shouldn't exist, is called being a scrub.

at the end of the day this is a game. If you want real tennis, grab a racquet.

1. You play videogames for a living??? if so please go hide, real man go to college, have jobs, go to gym, play sports, you play SF.

2. Congrats from being the top 32(something like that) seeded player, it must feel nice to look in the mirror and know that.

3. I conseder myself a good TS4 player, i have a decent ranking in 360 tour, will i get mad if someone who´s better than me beat? of course i will, but if that someone exploits a game glitch to do it so i´ll just laugh of this person cause its takes no skill to abuse drops or tramline service.

4. I dont play SF, dont like it(only play sports and FPS) so i cant say for sure but it appears to me that in SF is really hard to pull the glitchy and cheesy stuf, in TS4 it isnt, its easy as hell, a huy who has the game for 3 days can do it, so again the article brings little to zero use for ITST.

5. BTW i play tennis for abouts 9 years, almost whent PRO here in brazil but things didnt work out, and when i came here to ITST whas because i wanted to enjoy TS4 in a different standart than the WT, not to hear a self-absored SF PRO(still laughing about it) talk the things here arent right.

I can't even be mad. I have a beautiful fiance, a great career, graduated from a great college, and on the side I turned a hobby into a extra 15,000 a year for playing one weekend every 2 months and wearing a shirt. I get sent on fully paid vacations around the world regularly. I got a 3 week paid vacation to France last year, on top of my sponsorship money.

Im fairly impressed you went pro for a bit, sorry it didn't work out.

Some of us make baseless assumptions about other people's lives, and others are born with lots of talent so they don't have to give up on their lives to become great at what they love.

Djarvik, fair enough. I already said I respect the hello out of what you guys do here. I may not always agree, but ill always respect and appreciate you guys.

Cant compare me to you, im 18 taking lawschool 3rd semester and i have a gf too, but no joke 15,000 a year? i thought you guys got paid more, thats pretty much 75% of my semester, but hey not trying to compete you obviously have a real job too.

And please note that i didnt make an assumption in my post, i rather asked you if you played games for a living(which would be sad, congrats for making a hobby into money, i wish i could).

BTW: yeah my backhand was garbage and after i broke my knee y had no more motivation to keep playing, but i played some balls with Gustavo Kuerten once so it whats kind of worth it.]

And sometimes i lose my composure in these forums and i must apologize, my temper usually gets the best out of me(i dislocated my knee again so im pretty much 16h day in my computer/xbox which kinda is pissing me off).

[djarvik]

@LokiSharpShootr - I can see competitive spirit in you

What's up with your knee? ...the only reason I ask is because I have a right knee injury as well. It sucks. Big time.

[LokiSharpShootr]

@LokiSharpShootr - I can see competitive spirit in you

What's up with your knee? ...the only reason I ask is because I have a right knee injury as well. It sucks. Big time.

Thanks .

Answering your question, i was involved in a car accident 2 years ago wich busted my meniscus, my both side ligaments and my patellar ligaments, after 2 surgeries and fisioterapy i can move it pretty nicely nowadays, but i gotta use a protection when playing sports or doing efforts, but after a while i started to think i didnt need the protection(classic young behaviour, thinks his smarter than everyone) and last week i dislocated both side ligaments in a soccer match.

So i got 6 more months of videogames, chips and forum raging(just messing).

[VillaJ100]

Bad luck mate. I would have had a good go at turning pro, especially in Britain you only need 8 tennis lessons and you are instantly the UK's number 5

Kind of ended though when i shattered my right wrist.

[Tamthewasp]

Hey, no need to flat out disrespect the uk like that... 15 tennis lessons at least