Coincidence Part II: Fair Play

[Julius Jackson]

the only part of TS4 thats REMOTELY SIM is serving. doubles is kinda close to sim but even with it the bogus net physics blur reality. everything else is absurd and cannot be compared to real tennis. but yet u guys nitpick about the slightest "cheese" like FH slices

i totally agree with the OP; slice returns are super overpowered, especially against power serves, but thems the marbles. the gm is so utterly flawed to hell theres really no sim way to play it. youre simply fooling yourself if you think youre playing sim.

if you want something close to sim, play with bronze coaches and level 12s or something.

[jayl0ve]

Don't you forget it!

(@Raining Amoeba)

After a while we will have compiled enough 'cheesy' things that you can practically explain away any loss!! IT IS NO LONGER YOUR FAULT!

YAY!!!

[RainingAmoeba79]

Don't you forget it!

(@Raining Amoeba)

After a while we will have compiled enough 'cheesy' things that you can practically explain away any loss!! IT IS NO LONGER YOUR FAULT!

YAY!!!

Oh good, that wuld explain me going title less in ITST: the opponent was too cheesy.

[edlglide]

I don't think slice return are cheesy... You know why??? Cause they have more time to return center, but i have more time to decide what shot I have to do... So I don't know if people has a real advantage.

For example i use rarely slice return, only when i really can't return a big server (but always prefer spin return), or when i want to surprise my opponent.

I mostly agree with this -- I find that when people hit slice returns against me, I can usually rifle a shot into the corner that either ends up being a winner or sets me up for a winner on the next shot.

But it is really annoying when someone hits slice returns every single time -- I hardly ever slice return except to mix it up and catch the server off-guard.

[RainingAmoeba79]

i usually slice return w/ my S and Ver cuz i wanna chip and charge and he has 40 bh

[ILuvBillVal]

You guys are reading too far into what I say. I use slices myself in defensive situations. They are a vital part of the game. It becomes cheesy when people over use or constantly use them. People should not be stretching you across the court using offensive slice. Also it's pretty clear to observe that generally people start using these tactics when they're losing or being outplayed.

I'm not saying BAN slices or any crap like that or ban anything for that matter. Just that excessive "arcade" slice ought to looked at in the same light as excessive drop shots or excessive any dumb stuff. This existed in TS3 with risk slice (power slice) so I don't really see where there's any issue.

[Rob ITST]

Sometimes I'll play someone who slices everything, and they're beating me, driving me nuts, and I want to call them a cheeser. But then I try to counter-cheese them with my own slices, and they put them away for winners. So in the end, I just have to face the fact that I'm not good at countering slices.

[oshiee]

the only part of TS4 thats REMOTELY SIM is serving. doubles is kinda close to sim but even with it the bogus net physics blur reality. everything else is absurd and cannot be compared to real tennis. but yet u guys nitpick about the slightest "cheese" like FH slices

i totally agree with the OP; slice returns are super overpowered, especially against power serves, but thems the marbles. the gm is so utterly flawed to hell theres really no sim way to play it. youre simply fooling yourself if you think youre playing sim.

if you want something close to sim, play with bronze coaches and level 12s or something.

this x ∞

[SBR Ironik]

Regarding sliced return, the problem is that the "down the line" return is almost impossible to make even if the server is doing trameline serves.
When I try it, I'm immediately punished.
The same is true for wide sliced serves...

The only solution I found to stay in the rally is to make a deep slice in his feet.
Don't say me I'm cheesing 'cause I'll be very upset as my main pleasure in this game is beating cheeser ^^

[RainingAmoeba79]

Agreed with above cheeser

[SBR Ironik]

Erf.... Now I have to beat myself

[JoshUa8I]

Other things that can happen some time is this one: when you hit with a wrong time a ball, and you know your opponent will kill you, it happens that you pre-press slice... So if the opponent shot in the FH side, you have to do a FH slice, no other way to hit the ball

Anyway I have seen Anderson-Murray (Andy ) and both used FH slice, almost 3-4 times per set. It is not a rare shot to see in a tennis court.

[djarvik]

Other things that can happen some time is this one: when you hit with a wrong time a ball, and you know your opponent will kill you, it happens that you pre-press slice... So if the opponent shot in the FH side, you have to do a FH slice, no other way to hit the ball

Here is a thought! Don't pre-press!

Anyway I have seen Anderson-Murray (Andy ) and both used FH slice, almost 3-4 times per set. It is not a rare shot to see in a tennis court.

On WT, it is more like 3-4 times per point!

[RainingAmoeba79]

Yes, I played a guy who only sliced on WT, its annpying at first, but it is easy to beat.

[JoshUa8I]

You know Djarvik, i try to not pre-press... But sometime it can happen

I know pre-press is bad... I just played a match witch my IR\CP (i'm trying what good there is on this setup and i don't like so much, i will keep trying...) and it's easy to fall in the trap... You feel a god with your power and power shot like hell... But if the opponent is good, you lose... Indeed I lost