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Any news on the new patch?

Postby trulyinfemous » Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:52

I am incredibly excited about being able to actually PLAY an uninvited private online game. Be is WT or just a quick match, because currently it's IMPOSSIBLE.

Also, I really feel that speed needs addressing.
Just played my 3rd ITST match, and while I got outclassed by a better player, it's infuriating hitting 4/5 perfect control shots deep to each side vs a 53 speed player and he returns them perfectly with power and everything.
I'm not saying that 53 speed players shouldn't be able to get those shots, but regardless of instant rocket or crushing passing shot, they just shouldn't be able to hit a missile when reaching for the ball or when off balance.

I have yet to play a game vs anyone but an Offensive Baseliner (besides a practice game vs Dr Burt Reynolds) and each person has blown me off the court, regardless of how many perfect or good shots I hit. I also can't seem to get these insane angles everyone else does, and my wrong foot shots have little to no effect, while when I try and step into the correct central court position I'm immediately removed from an opportunity to return the shot.

The imbalance of this is quite infuriating, and it really needs to be addressed in this new patch.

I will admit I'm not a great player, but I should be able to win more than like 2 games in a set (even though 2 of my 3 losses have been to love in both sets). I'm just getting blown off the court and nothing I try, be it coming to the net to finish the point, hitting deep or short power shots, hitting control shots cross court, up the line, slicing it deep to the weaker flank or even drop shots has any effect.
How can a 53 speed player standing behind the baseline get to a perfect drop shot and hit the ball with interest?

Something's wrong and needs to be fixed and I'd like to know when 2k!

PS. Can someone tell me how to hit extreme angles on shots because I try jamming the stick back and to the side and hit a control shot and it doesn't always work, even if i hit it perfectly. In fact the better shots are the 'good' ones and specifically my weaker flank gets better angles than my stronger one. Does stroke style play into this?
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Postby djarvik » Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:59

I have asked for help (me and 2K), but received none.

http://www.intertopspintour.net/forum/v ... hp?t=15102

It seems like people rather complain that actually try and help addressing the problem. I don't mean you specifically, rather in general.

This is a REAL opportunity to point a finger at exactly what you want fixed. I simply don't have time for this, sadly.
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Postby xesco15 » Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:54

if you want i will try to record a match where my opponent player who has 55 in speed run a lot and arrive to all the balls.
In my oppinion, maybe your opponent saw your shots perfectly and he moves to the right side
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Postby Chederer » Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:57

berdych and soderling are some of the slowest players on the tour...but they are able to run down balls because they come back slow because of their adverse power off of both wings
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Postby djarvik » Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:03

xesco15 wrote:if you want i will try to record a match where my opponent player who has 55 in speed run a lot and arrive to all the balls.
In my oppinion, maybe your opponent saw your shots perfectly and he moves to the right side


Please do, this will help. 2K is basically waiting fro videos from me on what they need to fix. As of right now - this is the only thing that will get it done.

So please, if anyone really wants to make an effort in updating the game, make videos.
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Postby trulyinfemous » Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:06

djarvik I'd love to record a match and help out, but unfortunately I can't play and hold my phone to record it at the same time, and I'll find it tough getting someone to record me playing TS4.

I understand that you need videos, but why?

Surely they can just turn on the game and play it and realize there's an issue with this? Specifically online, as it's not AS bad offline.
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Postby oshiee » Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:27

can they readjust the balance between serving and returning. It's still way too easy to hit deep top spin returns off any serve. There needs to be more return errors ( right now there are zero), hitting deep high bouncing top spin returns should be much harder. Serving difficulty should stay the same.
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Postby djarvik » Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:28

trulyinfemous wrote:I understand that you need videos, but why?

Surely they can just turn on the game and play it and realize there's an issue with this? Specifically online, as it's not AS bad offline.


Short answer: Developers, coders - know little about tennis.
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Postby SBR Ironik » Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:36

I'd like to record some matches but I need a tv to do that (i play on a computer screen)... and as you must know it's expensive. I've already bought a recording device which is useless right now.
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Postby trulyinfemous » Tue, 19 Jul 2011 23:05

djarvik wrote:
trulyinfemous wrote:I understand that you need videos, but why?

Surely they can just turn on the game and play it and realize there's an issue with this? Specifically online, as it's not AS bad offline.


Short answer: Developers, coders - know little about tennis.


damn that's worrying! lol!

I'm a noob with regards to tennis, but surely it's common sense to see consecutive, perfect timed, control, deep angled shots vs 50 speed players being returned with ease as an issue?

The main issue, is that online, power is all that matters, and that speed which is the natural counter to that, does not.

I hope people can actually record stuff to help out, and I'll try and find a way to if I can.
Unfortunately I can't get many quick online games to record on TS4 because of this inability to connect with anyone not on my friends list.

One other thing I think I mentioned in the appropriate thread is volley warping, where it seems they are missing a bridge animation from standing still to reaching out to volleys and as such players warp and slide into a volley stance and make the volley. Addition of a few more animations such as shuffling over into a volley position would be much better and would then allow players to realistically measure how much of a gap there is to pass someone at the net. Too often I go up the line thinking I can make the shot and someone warps and hits a winning volley. If there's a visual limit to the volley radius then I'd know when to pass or when to attempt a lob etc.
If people can get video evidence of this too that'd be ace!
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Postby maderer » Wed, 20 Jul 2011 00:12

trulyinfemous wrote:
damn that's worrying! lol!

I'm a noob with regards to tennis, but surely it's common sense to see consecutive, perfect timed, control, deep angled shots vs 50 speed players being returned with ease as an issue?




forget 50 speed, you can run the same speed with 40 that you run with 65 or 70. I think they forgot to scale speed in latest update. For anyone playing world tour against power players 40ish speed and 90+ power player it is a no brainer that speed is useless right now. Reach is about same for all with very minor difference.

I myself am going to shift to 90+ power group because allocating any stats on speed even 50+ is really useless at this point considering it makes no difference to mobility.

I know I promised to get a video and I will try to do that in a world tour match today using my ipod. Hopefully it will turn out clear for submission.
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Postby jayl0ve » Wed, 20 Jul 2011 00:40

oshiee wrote:can they readjust the balance between serving and returning. It's still way too easy to hit deep top spin returns off any serve. There needs to be more return errors ( right now there are zero), hitting deep high bouncing top spin returns should be much harder. Serving difficulty should stay the same.


Bingo, this is exactly what's wrong with the game to me...it throws off the balance of the entire game, I don't even play the game anymore because I've realized how incredibly overpowered and easy the return game is. It's tough to win a damn point on your own serve now.
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Postby tonedawg1 » Wed, 20 Jul 2011 00:42

jayl0ve wrote:
oshiee wrote:can they readjust the balance between serving and returning. It's still way too easy to hit deep top spin returns off any serve. There needs to be more return errors ( right now there are zero), hitting deep high bouncing top spin returns should be much harder. Serving difficulty should stay the same.


Bingo, this is exactly what's wrong with the game to me...it throws off the balance of the entire game, I don't even play the game anymore because I've realized how incredibly overpowered and easy the return game is. It's tough to win a damn point on your own serve now.


Lol that's why I always break but never hold :?
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Re: Any news on the new patch?

Postby safe_as_milk_ » Wed, 20 Jul 2011 01:35

trulyinfemous wrote:I have yet to play a game vs anyone but an Offensive Baseliner (besides a practice game vs Dr Burt Reynolds)


The speed thing's a tough one- when I compare that DB I played you with to my OB, i definitely notice a difference in speed/responsiveness. As has been said some of the top players are doing serious damage with DBs, and if they beef up speed even more, everyone'll just use them instead...
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Postby el duuderino » Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:01

NOW!!!!!

monster defense is still completely overpowered, how have they not seen this yet???????????????????????????
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