next best dirt baller after nadal

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#2 clay court player

Federer
3
9%
Almagro
1
3%
Ferrer
14
44%
Djokovic
14
44%
 
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Postby tigerofintegrity » Sun, 24 Apr 2011 23:32

supinesmokey13 wrote:for me since rafa won his first RG no else has better results than roger heck fed shares the record for most consecutive RG finals with nadal. borg and lendl and with a french open title and five master series titles on clay this should not be debated as no one else considered has more big title wins on clay than roger Ferrer has not won a master title made the semis of the french neither has almagro, novak one master title on clay so based on the facts on i have presented fed is the 2nd best heck neither ferrer or djokovic or almagro hold a win over nadal on clay tlk less of a clay court final like fed does


Federer a few years ago, definitely yes. Federer today, definitely no. I think the current fight for second best would be between Djokovic and Ferrer but right now, it's hard to pick against Nole.
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Mon, 25 Apr 2011 00:04

tigerofintegrity wrote:
supinesmokey13 wrote:for me since rafa won his first RG no else has better results than roger heck fed shares the record for most consecutive RG finals with nadal. borg and lendl and with a french open title and five master series titles on clay this should not be debated as no one else considered has more big title wins on clay than roger Ferrer has not won a master title made the semis of the french neither has almagro, novak one master title on clay so based on the facts on i have presented fed is the 2nd best heck neither ferrer or djokovic or almagro hold a win over nadal on clay tlk less of a clay court final like fed does


Federer a few years ago, definitely yes. Federer today, definitely no. I think the current fight for second best would be between Djokovic and Ferrer but right now, it's hard to pick against Nole.
it is not fair to use fed current form to judge him of the top three 3-4 last yr only fed reach a clay mastersto face rafa final so 5yrs and till nw fed is the best ferrer has only made two masters final on clay this yr and las yr and didnt even make qf of french so and nole reach QF of rg too so again untill those two 1, win the french 2,win more masters on clay than fed is still no 2 using his current woes is not enough to judge against him dnt forget the french open win was only two yrs ago which still recent enough to be a vaild point for fed being the number 2
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Postby jayl0ve » Mon, 25 Apr 2011 03:08

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Postby Sherlock 117 » Mon, 25 Apr 2011 04:14

supinesmokey13 wrote:it is not fair to use fed current form to judge him of the top three 3-4 last yr only fed reach a clay mastersto face rafa final so 5yrs and till nw fed is the best ferrer has only made two masters final on clay this yr and las yr and didnt even make qf of french so and nole reach QF of rg too so again untill those two 1, win the french 2,win more masters on clay than fed is still no 2 using his current woes is not enough to judge against him dnt forget the french open win was only two yrs ago which still recent enough to be a vaild point for fed being the number 2


I think the context of the question is Currently who the second best dirt baller is. Not who the second best of all time is. I agree that a few years ago Fed was definitely number 2. That doesn't not make him the second best currently. You certainly won't see the oddsmakers giving him the second best odds of winning Roland Garros based on the fact that he was second best a few years ago.
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Postby coke4 » Sun, 08 May 2011 22:36

Has to be Djokovic no?
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Postby Moralspain » Sun, 08 May 2011 22:40

coke4 wrote:Has to be Djokovic no?


either Djokovic or Gulbis, i can't tell
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Postby djarvik » Mon, 09 May 2011 00:45

Definitely Gulbis.
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