Favourite Upcoming Player

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Favourite Youngster

Juan Monaco
3
13%
Andy Murray
5
21%
Richard Gasquet
3
13%
Tomas Berdych
1
4%
Gael Monfils
4
17%
Juan Del Potro
2
8%
John Isner
3
13%
Gilles Simon
0
No votes
Frank Dancevic
1
4%
Jo Wilfied Tsonga
2
8%
 
Total votes : 24

Postby bergkamptheone » Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:03

PahelJDilla wrote:Beat the crap out of that moonballer Andy :D


Well, Robredo did so :wink:
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Postby Johnnn Boyyy » Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:59

i voted Andy Murray cause he will become one of the best players under Brad Gilbert... he will not be so much of a counter puncher and become more balanced with more offense with his excellent defense. but i feel he is already established. I really like Jo Tsonga. He has a HUGGGGE game and with conditioning and more experience he can become a huge factor in the tourneys he enters when he is mentally stronger.
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Postby PahelJDilla » Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:07

Pathetic loss by Andy, no way that he could not notch up that title.

@Johnnn: I also think Tsonga is one of the most promising younger players, he was a good junior and seems set to make quite some noise on the ATP tour now.
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Postby jayl0ve » Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:16

It's ok, Federer wasn't super-consistent until he was 23 or 24, right? I mean he was still losing to guys like Hewitt and Henman back when he was Murray's age.
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Postby PahelJDilla » Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:54

jayl0ve wrote:It's ok, Federer wasn't super-consistent until he was 23 or 24, right? I mean he was still losing to guys like Hewitt and Henman back when he was Murray's age.


Good point. Still, this title was his to lose but hopefully it's just another part of the learning- and maturing process.
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Postby Q. Reese » Mon, 08 Oct 2007 04:13

PahelJDilla wrote:
jayl0ve wrote:It's ok, Federer wasn't super-consistent until he was 23 or 24, right? I mean he was still losing to guys like Hewitt and Henman back when he was Murray's age.


Good point. Still, this title was his to lose but hopefully it's just another part of the learning- and maturing process.


Yep. Game-wise, I do not think Blake is mature on the court.
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Postby Rocketsfall » Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:17

Q. Reese wrote:
PahelJDilla wrote:
jayl0ve wrote:It's ok, Federer wasn't super-consistent until he was 23 or 24, right? I mean he was still losing to guys like Hewitt and Henman back when he was Murray's age.


Good point. Still, this title was his to lose but hopefully it's just another part of the learning- and maturing process.


Yep. Game-wise, I do not think Blake is mature on the court.


This is not about Blake, unless I'm missing something :?:
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Postby PahelJDilla » Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:30

Rocketsfall wrote:
Q. Reese wrote:
PahelJDilla wrote:
jayl0ve wrote:It's ok, Federer wasn't super-consistent until he was 23 or 24, right? I mean he was still losing to guys like Hewitt and Henman back when he was Murray's age.


Good point. Still, this title was his to lose but hopefully it's just another part of the learning- and maturing process.


Yep. Game-wise, I do not think Blake is mature on the court.


This is not about Blake, unless I'm missing something :?:


Nope, Blake is not exactly an "upcoming player", neither did he blow the Metz final against Robredo yesterday :lol:
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Postby bergkamptheone » Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:18

Don't take it too serious. Probably, Reese was at the KEANE University and give the forum just a brief visit. Thus, he might have misunderstood something a little. He will comment on that later, I am absolutely sure. :wink:
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Postby Q. Reese » Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:53

Q. Reese wrote:
PahelJDilla wrote:
jayl0ve wrote:It's ok, Federer wasn't super-consistent until he was 23 or 24, right? I mean he was still losing to guys like Hewitt and Henman back when he was Murray's age.


Good point. Still, this title was his to lose but hopefully it's just another part of the learning- and maturing process.


Yep. Game-wise, I do not think Blake is mature on the court.


Nah guys. Even though the post is about new-upcomers, I was homing on Pahel's comment. I think that whether you are an upcomer or not, if you do not have a maturity or the ability to think the shots out on court, I think you will never break the barrier in the rankings or maintain his or her ranking.

Oh, I was not at Kean, the correct spelling. I was up late with my brother and sisters though. :wink:
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Postby PahelJDilla » Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:08

Q. Reese wrote:
Q. Reese wrote:
PahelJDilla wrote:
jayl0ve wrote:It's ok, Federer wasn't super-consistent until he was 23 or 24, right? I mean he was still losing to guys like Hewitt and Henman back when he was Murray's age.


Good point. Still, this title was his to lose but hopefully it's just another part of the learning- and maturing process.


Yep. Game-wise, I do not think Blake is mature on the court.


Nah guys. Even though the post is about new-upcomers, I was homing on Pahel's comment. I think that whether you are an upcomer or not, if you do not have a maturity or the ability to think the shots out on court, I think you will never break the barrier in the rankings or maintain his or her ranking.



I agree with what you stated, but where is the connection between Murray and Jimmy James? They never struck me as a similar type of player :wink:
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Postby Q. Reese » Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:39

Haha.

Blake has been an upcoming player but cannot maintain his level of performance.

The other one has to step it up to reach the top 10 like Blake. Once Murray gets there, I am sure that he can maintain it. If he cannot, I know more and likely it will be because of his future injuries.
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Postby Sherlock 117 » Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:57

I like Murray and Gasquest, but I think if you're going to put a young American in the list, Donald Young should be there instead of Isner. Isner may make a dent in the rankings because of his serve, but he will never improve too much past Karlovic, he's just too tall.

On the other hand, I've watched a couple Donald Young matches, and I really like his game. He just about beat Davydenko and played a solid match in the third round of the US Open, losing in four sets. Sure he has work to do, but he has a lot of natural ability and unfocused tennis smarts, and he's only 18. He will be cracking the top 100 early next year and playing in a lot more of the tour-level tournaments, so I think he's going to start improving greatly. He just had a slight barrier he had to get past in his development by winning a tour-level match, and now he's really starting to play a lot better. He was a runner-up in a challenger event a week and a half ago...
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Postby PahelJDilla » Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:14

Q. Reese wrote:Haha.

Blake has been an upcoming player but cannot maintain his level of performance.

The other one has to step it up to reach the top 10 like Blake. Once Murray gets there, I am sure that he can maintain it. If he cannot, I know more and likely it will be because of his future injuries.


Blake was an upcoming player, yeah, like 5 years ago.

He's still a Top 10 player at the moment, I don't think there has been such a huge letdown at all, even compared to last year.

But that doesn't matter, the most important thing is that we are friends :)
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Postby PahelJDilla » Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:16

Sherlock 117 wrote:On the other hand, I've watched a couple Donald Young matches, and I really like his game. He just about beat Davydenko and played a solid match in the third round of the US Open, losing in four sets. Sure he has work to do, but he has a lot of natural ability and unfocused tennis smarts, and he's only 18. He will be cracking the top 100 early next year and playing in a lot more of the tour-level tournaments, so I think he's going to start improving greatly. He just had a slight barrier he had to get past in his development by winning a tour-level match, and now he's really starting to play a lot better. He was a runner-up in a challenger event a week and a half ago...


Yeah he has quite some pop on his serve and is exceptionally fast...amazing how many haters this kid has just because he needed a while for that transition from being a great junior to becoming a solid atp-level player on a regular basis.
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