Possibility to change to left handed ?

[J0KER FR]

Hello !

I a new player of Tennis Elbow 2013
I'm left handed, and we have 6 players (for 68) who are left handed:
- Klizan, Lopez, Llodra, Melzer, Nadal and Verdasco

Not the worst of course. But it's frustrating to have not the possibility to test with good sensations the others players. Why we can't change the hand of players ?
Ok it will be not 100% Sim, but I think it's a good question.

Thank you

Vincent

[Pablo Hernandez]

Unfortunately that is not possible, players will always be as their respective real life counterparts wouldn't make sense nor would it be realistic to have Federer as a left hander or Rafa as a right hander.

[inseedious]

Hello JOKER FR,

Making the users able to change the "hand" of players, as you mentioned, would be a step away from simulation, which is one of the core features of ITST TE Community and gives the name to the tour itself (PC SIM Tour).

Other than that, each player has a unique combination of stats AND dominant hand. Being lefty is a real feature and has a strong tactical impact. This has been heavily taken into account while modeling the players' stats and animations, so such a change in dominant hands would mess up with lots of important things and, overall, with the balance of the game.

Personally, despite having a big experience in this game, I still struggle with/vs lefties because of their different trajectories. So, I strongly suggest you to stick with lefties and exploit their diversity. Lopez and Nadal, for example, are two excellent players with different styles who have won Grand Slams in our tour.

inseedious

[J0KER FR]

Yes, but I have just 6 players. It's a little bit unfair for the left handed.
There are no equivalent of Federer, Tsonga, etc... left handed...

For example, we have not an attacker with a single back hand. (Don't tell me Lllodra or Lopez, there are
volleyball player).

Not realistic, but more fair in my opinion.

Don't tell me you have the same sensation to take a left handed or a right handed.

Like I said, it's so frustrating. Just no fair for a left handed. 6 players for 62, that's no balance in my opinion. I think i'm not alone to think that.

The more realitic is to have the same players to the left and right handed players...

Vincent

[isaldor]

There is many more righties than lefties on the ATP tour, hence it is the same on ITST. Like inseedious and Pablo said simulation is the main purpose of the ITST community.

[J0KER FR]

So for you 62 players to 6 it's fair ? Balance ?

And you think the lefty players are so diversified than the rightys ?
And you think if we had the possibility to change the hand, it's destroy the balance of the game ?

You can't say that's balance or fair.

Sim is for me the same weapon(s) as a right handed. That's my vision

[J0KER FR]

Who are the best left handed in this game ?
And her/his rank ?

I want also their opinion too

[inseedious]

As I said, being lefty is an "advantage" when facing 90% of our players, because they are not used to face them. Probably, you'll discover that by playing some more matches.

Beside all the arguments I've already written, I'm telling you that having more lefties would DESTROY the diversity and the "advantage" of being lefty. Our right/left handed ratio is perfectly aligned with ATP Tour and with the real world. It is also balanced as long as lefties have the same chance of winning a match as right-handed guys.

I think you're using a wrong perspective. Being lefty is a special feature, just like being a volley master. Under my point of view, asking to play a lefty Federer is as wrong as asking to play a Serve&Volley Nadal.

P.S.: We have lots of right-handed users who choose left-handed players, and vice-versa.

[djarvik]

Racism.

[J0KER FR]

"Our right/left handed ratio is perfectly aligned with ATP"
Yeah, there are an left Fed, a left Wawrinka, a left Isner

Just ans me about this, when you play with a left handed, did you have the same sensation(s) ?
That's the question for me.

For example, I don't find the same scope between a two handed BH and a one handed backhand.
So, did we have a "puncher" with that ? The more close is Lopez and Llodra (yeaaaaah).
I can say that for many example; did we have a big server like Tsonga or Isner ? I think not

So for you, a FED left handed VS a FED right handed is not fair ?
Hum...

[J0KER FR]

Racism.

Haha, hello Djarvik. How are you ?


I think the debate is absolutly commendable
Specially for us ^^

[Pablo Hernandez]

It's not about if it's fair or not, ITST TE is based on realism and what's realistic about a left handed Federer. It is not as if chars are used apart from Federer's who seems like a spreading rash on tour nowadays. There is no need for more lefties on this game apart from Shapovalov as there isn't many top lefties on tour, to add to that what is the need to add chars when they won't be used.

[J0KER FR]

Realism for me, is the same weapons for every players.

If you want realism, why 23 Federer in Australian Open ? There is one FED
Easy argument my friend, like yours.

Again one ?
In AO: R16: TheBoss-94 vs TheRetroPrime it's... Federer vs Federer OMFG it's not realistic

--'


I know, i'm noob. I probably never win a tournament. My voice deserve to be heard like your voice. You can't just say "realism" everywhere. But i have a little experience of ITST and SIM. Before you even.



But if you think it's balance is to have 6 (awesome) players against 64.
Think against yourself my friends

It's not beceause it does not benefit you it's bad.

Ah and sorry for my english :/

[Pablo Hernandez]

Federer usage on tour is of the roof everyone is infatuated with him for some reason, but it's personal preference. Just wouldn't make sense having players using the opposite hand, personal opinion there is enough lefties on the roster for every surface and with different styles and animations. Right handers that are used primarily are Federer, wawrinka so you have over 60 chars that are barely used or used at all for e.g. Sela, seppi, monaco just to name a few. Yes it isn't realistic having Federer Vs Federer every round, but it is realistic in having them with the correct animations along with being right hander. There isn't a possible way to reach full realism no matter what game it is, but in ITST everyone is trying to make it as realistic as possible and it can be seen with people taking their time to mod the game, people making animations, courts things like that, which will enhance the game and are more worthy on spending their time on.

[J0KER FR]

It's you don't understand that my argument was ironic, like i find your answers ironic I find.

I will take an another argument:
In Top Spin 3 Sim, with have the possibility to have 21 players (http://www.intertopspintour.net/content ... _Ver.2.pdf)
I'll take the same ratio in tennis Elbow:
Which gives us 2/3 players left. Woha, so balance.

You never don't understand my argument, surely because of my english.
But you do not answer my argument.

Just answer this question:
Imagine two players: Dark Vador right handed n°3 VS Ronald Reagan left handed n°9
They use the same players: Bashmakov ( <3 )
Who win ?