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Unfair criticism!

Postby DeathDoUsPart20 » Mon, 24 Mar 2014 16:14

In response to the ridiculous, and quite frankly laughable complaints on my playing style.
i feel itst management are only responding to players who complain because they lose, i highly doubt the would come and complain if i were not ranked 2nd and was an easy opponent!?
Lets see... • Wide serve = LEGAL
• 85 power, 100 serve = LEGAL
• fake approach shot = LEGAL
• one step from the 'T' = LEGAL ( as far as i am aware)

Ofcourse i am going to use spin serve to my advantage, its my coaches skill!! And yes i admit i do on very rare occasion, use defensive dropshot, old world tour habbit, but i find it hard to believe you cant stick to the rules 100% of the time, after all I am only human. If i were to complain about players not following the rules in every game, i would never stop messaging the host. Short slice,lob return (andy murrys favourite shot) defensive dropshots its all in real tennis so it should be acceptible on the odd circumstances...
I am just wanting the hosts to perhaps not listen to sore losers because my style of play is "different" not "cheesey"!

Thanks
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Re: Unfair criticism!

Postby Burna747 » Mon, 24 Mar 2014 17:31

Maybe some of your opponents wouldn't complain if you would show them a little bit respect after a match. Just an idea....
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Re: Unfair criticism!

Postby DeathDoUsPart20 » Mon, 24 Mar 2014 19:25

Perhaps, perhaps i should... But i dont think a 'GG' cushions the blow of a defeat
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Re: Unfair criticism!

Postby Pepe Bradock » Tue, 25 Mar 2014 09:52

Arf, your description of the shots you used and for which you are criticized shows that you accumulate all possible cheesy tactics :

- wides serve not being centered (as you talk about 1 step, which implies you must quickly go wider because you use wide serves and I imagine you never recenter during game) ;
- fake approaches ;
- defensive drop shots.

0 power serves are the only missing in that list.

I imagine that you're smart enough to use the shots on the list not often enough as hosts estimate this use is bearable :roll:.

It's a pity there are guys like you, using all the weaknesses of ITST rules. ITST spirit is based on common confidence between players, this is why rules are not so strict : hosts estimate that players who decided to play here share the same approach of this game. So when a guy decides to be disrepectful of game spirit as far as rules tolerance allows to be, it creates a problem. This is all but surprising...

You said your play style is different but not cheesy. That's wrong, it is cheesy (go and read topic about cheesy tactics). But cheesy doesn't mean automatically forbidden. Then I guess either you have a "smart" :roll: use of these tactics that keep your playstyle in what is tolerated here, or none of you opponent has recorded you yet to show managers your cheesy style, as this is the only way to efficiently prove them a player use forbidden style.

Whatever, you seem to be proud of using all the tactics you desrcibed and that make you criticized by other players. You must be such a nice guy... :roll:
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Re: Unfair criticism!

Postby dj morgancooper » Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:52

U should keep your player with 90 forehand and 90 power since it shows your true level on ITST.

And whatever u win or lose, u don't have a single word for ur opponent. Burna is 100% right.That's a lack of respect, especially after an huge battle.

Did u ever give a single advice to your opponent after a match ? lol
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Re: Unfair criticism!

Postby Belonger » Tue, 25 Mar 2014 13:09

According to what you say, DJMorganCooper, this guy used to play with another set up since he discovered that Skipetrov in 0/20/0 with his stats, his skills and using cheesy tactics is a very efficient coach, doesn't he ? Tell me if I'm wrong. And his Skipetrov is probably made in 4/0 with a strong wing, isn't it ?

But I don't see which set up was it, as TS Calculator tells me there's no existing profile with 90 fh and 90 power. I'm then puzzled by this set up ;).

The closest I found are Gallo 1/18/1 (4/0) and Neuwirth 0/15/5 and 0/14/6, both 0/4. But for Gallo, power is 92 and for Neuwirth, it's 88 and 87 ; moreover, Galloo one is not ITST compatible as it presents 2 grey stats.

Regarding the kind of player it seems to be, wasn't it something like 1/17/2 Gallo with 4/0 ?
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Re: Unfair criticism!

Postby dj morgancooper » Tue, 25 Mar 2014 13:44

First time we played he used his 100 serve character.

In our second match, he used this fair character. Honestly i don't exactly remenber, i think his backhand was 59, 89 power, and 89 or 90 forehand, one skill for volley as far as i remember.

Completely different match since he couldn't rely on his serve, and it was only a baseline battle.
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Re: Unfair criticism!

Postby DeathDoUsPart20 » Tue, 25 Mar 2014 14:05

To reapond to margancooper and burna, i dont ever recieve a good game or good luck after any game, barr a few, so i dont see why i should be the one to leave a comment, and iff i do recieve a message its always complaints. i missed in the rules where its cheesy to not have time to comment after a match because my religion isnt ITST, ive got other thing to do.
And as a response to my use of different player, it was my brother veNm I SPoNgE who played that match for me, probably against the rules but i though a match rather than a walkover is more exciting, thats why you won, he doesnt have my charactor on his xbox.
And as far as pepe is conserned, you havent played me so all your commemting on is hear say.. I dont abuse these shot, but i do use them, if the host messages me and tells me these shots are forbidden, then i will stop using them, and yes my first character i used wasnt 100 serve, i based my new player round brushedbigjj (approch shot expert)one of the legends in this game, best player ive ever played, and he never complained once about my play style. So all that really has to be said is if you cant take loseing, dont play.
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Re: Unfair criticism!

Postby DeathDoUsPart20 » Tue, 25 Mar 2014 14:14

Also, curious on the opinions of the itst managent?
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Re: Unfair criticism!

Postby Pepe Bradock » Tue, 25 Mar 2014 14:53

DeathDoUsPart20 wrote:To reapond to margancooper and burna, i dont ever recieve a good game or good luck after any game, barr a few, so i dont see why i should be the one to leave a comment, and iff i do recieve a message its always complaints. i missed in the rules where its cheesy to not have time to comment after a match because my religion isnt ITST, ive got other thing to do.
And as a response to my use of different player, it was my brother veNm I SPoNgE who played that match for me, probably against the rules but i though a match rather than a walkover is more exciting, thats why you won, he doesnt have my charactor on his xbox.
And as far as pepe is conserned, you havent played me so all your commemting on is hear say.. I dont abuse these shot, but i do use them, if the host messages me and tells me these shots are forbidden, then i will stop using them, and yes my first character i used wasnt 100 serve, i based my new player round brushedbigjj (approch shot expert)one of the legends in this game, best player ive ever played, and he never complained once about my play style. So all that really has to be said is if you cant take loseing, dont play.


I do not comment on hear say, I only use your words and your own explanation to make my opinion. And you confirm this in the message I'm answering to :

=> Indeed, these shots are not strictly forbidden ; though, they are considered as cheesy tactics. These ones are only prohibited if used permanently. Now, you use them "sometimes", as you can say you are in the "tolerated area" of cheesy tactics. This is exactly what I've already said above.

So if you can't be accused of stricltly being a cheater, your TS4 philosophy is to use all cheesy shots to be a cheesy but tolerated player. This is why I've said your attitude is everything but respecting ITST spirit.
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Re: Unfair criticism!

Postby DeathDoUsPart20 » Tue, 25 Mar 2014 15:51

Well, as the saying goes ; you cant please everyone :)
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Re: Unfair criticism!

Postby Pepe Bradock » Tue, 25 Mar 2014 17:38

DeathDoUsPart20 wrote:Well, as the saying goes ; you cant please everyone :)


Yes, but pay attention not to turn into : you can please nobody...
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Re: Unfair criticism!

Postby DeathDoUsPart20 » Tue, 25 Mar 2014 18:13

Hence why i said "not everyone"
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Re: Unfair criticism!

Postby Pepe Bradock » Tue, 25 Mar 2014 18:21

DeathDoUsPart20 wrote:Hence why i said "not everyone"


What I mean is that the problem is not that you can't please everyone, but that with such a cheesy gamestyle, you do not please anybody... or you get upset everybody, as you like...
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Re: Unfair criticism!

Postby DeathDoUsPart20 » Tue, 25 Mar 2014 18:26

Pepe, do you play top spin 4 on xbox?
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