BrushedBigJJ wrote:JohnCurveo wrote:I don't understand something, people says New grass fits Nadal game?
On old grass his topspin would mean nothing after the bounce, it would be right in peoples strike zones. And he couldn't play way behind the baseline.
JohnCurveo wrote:Nadal is a hell of a beast in grass, that Wimbledon 2008 final proves that. Better than Djoko and Marray so far.
My best: Nadal-Federer and way behind them Murray and Djoko
He has more titles and appearances than them but is he really that much better than them in 2013 on grass? And Murray was miles ahead of rafa in accomplishments on grass last year. And Nole beat rafa in the final in 2011. As I said before its razor thin between them.
Don't agree with you. I think ure confusing the bounce of the ball on indoor hard court with fast grass. Nadal has played great tournaments on Queen's, and won 2008's edition. Then, Queen's grass was faster than now, near to 2000's Wimby. Top spin shots are really hard to counter on grass, but u have to dominate, Haas uses it, Gasquet uses it, Federer uses it. Always on grass. And Borg won that tournament 5 times.
I think Murray will never win Wimbledon, and i think Nadal is gonna win 2013's Wimby. Nadal was not in form last year, if Djokovic plays him, i guarantee this is not gonna be like 2011's final.