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Net play - autopos

Postby butcher » Sun, 12 May 2013 15:36

I would like to know how many of you use autopos on net (position yourself and then holding the shot button) and how many of you don't use that.

personally, some time ago i used autopos very often. recently i used autopos almost always. these couple of days i tried not to use autopos at all and try to wait and see which way to go, but i find autopos more efficient which is bad thing cause i feel like im cheating :P

or i just suck? 8)
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Re: Net play - autopos

Postby Clog » Sun, 12 May 2013 18:32

I think that everyone does ! But on far balls, you don't have a choice if you want to reach it, you gotta walk manually at first, and then use autopos. But I guess Master C4iLL will share his knowledge on it. ^^
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Re: Net play - autopos

Postby VMoe86 » Sun, 12 May 2013 19:16

butcher wrote:I would like to know how many of you use autopos on net (position yourself and then holding the shot button) and how many of you don't use that.

I think you won't get a clear picture of it, since many are probably mixing it: Using it in certain situations and in some not.

butcher wrote:personally, some time ago i used autopos very often. recently i used autopos almost always. these couple of days i tried not to use autopos at all and try to wait and see which way to go, but i find autopos more efficient which is bad thing cause i feel like im cheating :P

For me it depends on the situation. Sometimes it is crystal clear what my opponent is going to do and I just run there, I position myself and volley. When I hit a shorter or bad volley it is more difficult, so I rely on AutoPosition there, but more in the following sense: I just pick my spot at the net, hold the shot button and hope to get the ball with the jump from the AutoPosition, but I don't move further in that direction most of the time.
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Re: Net play - autopos

Postby butcher » Sun, 12 May 2013 20:57

Well, i guess autopos is used pretty often considering what you two said and infos from some other guys. the main thing with autopos is that it improves aiming much. if i try to wait and see the direction i can catch more balls, but the problem is to aim. so, even if i catch some hard ball, my return volleys are often poor and not precise enough and thats why autopos is better in my point of view. but it would be cool if there is no autopos, it would be more fun and take more skill.
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Re: Net play - autopos

Postby inseedious » Sun, 12 May 2013 23:05

I have a mixed behaviour, as almost all guys here. This is also because I suck a bit at net^^

I'm not a master in net, but I usually hit volleys with a good position and I often have troubles because, although I'm well positioned, the autopos moves my character and forces me to a "body volley", I can also see when I make an error because of that, as the informations about the error clearly show that I hit the ball in the middle of the body (orange colour). Is anyone experiencing this? I also think, even though we know that manutoo won't change game mechanics before the next TE, that he should fix the bh/fh volley selection, or at least make this problem fixable with a smarter autopos.
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Re: Net play - autopos

Postby C4iLL » Mon, 13 May 2013 09:58

Strangely, I didn't know such a thing existed before some people talked about that in the chat a few days ago.
Personally, I only try to guess the shots with my knowledge, and afterwards, I try to reach them with the jump thing.
As I was often successfull with that "natural" method, I never tried something else.

My opinion about this assistance is then 100% negative, and I'm surprised so many people use tricks like that to play the game... Globally I'm against any form of assistance that anticipate for yourself. Except maybe on services return, because it helps the newcomers at beginning.
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Re: Net play - autopos

Postby VMoe86 » Mon, 13 May 2013 10:31

I more often get passed when I use that trick and don't cover or position correctly at the net. I find it more effective to anticipate and follow basic principles (covering the line, for example) and that's when I play my best at the net. Some maybe can use this trick better than others, I don't know. Maybe I'll sit down (watching .dmo files) and do a private list of players who are using that trick to replace anticipation.
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Re: Net play - autopos

Postby inseedious » Mon, 13 May 2013 12:24

inseedious wrote:I have a mixed behaviour, as almost all guys here. This is also because I suck a bit at net^^

I'm not a master in net, but I usually hit volleys with a good position and I often have troubles because, although I'm well positioned, the autopos moves my character and forces me to a "body volley", I can also see when I make an error because of that, as the informations about the error clearly show that I hit the ball in the middle of the body (orange colour). Is anyone experiencing this? I also think, even though we know that manutoo won't change game mechanics before the next TE, that he should fix the bh/fh volley selection, or at least make this problem fixable with a smarter autopos.


When I said autopos, I was meaning "net jump". It should not be confused with autopos. Any tip about my issue?
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Re: Net play - autopos

Postby Florian » Mon, 13 May 2013 12:32

I personnally use both tactics, but you gotta make sure that you cover the right angles at the net to avoid surprises that a jump won't cover.

The autopos is too effective in the case where the passer has a nice look at an average volley around the middle of the court and all you can do is wait and hope the autopos covers where the pass is gonna be (most of the time no matter how much pace there is on that pass). That sucks. But i guess the only reason why autopos is effective at the net and service return is because it would be really really difficult in many situations to simultaneously control the direction of the incoming ball, and do a precise footwork to do something interesting (think about Raonic's serve, so fast and bouncy at the time...suicide mission without autopos).

By the way i have the same issues that inseedious has mentionned about the wrong wing going to an easy volley resulting into a red ue...
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