Hello!

[Marco_Theo_81]

no worry Ugadalou

Tryed to execute this shot, but don't get it. Will not use it.

[djarvik]

In my opinion, there is "room" for this shot in the game, but the problem with it is similar to Drop shot or Lob problem. It's success rate is basically too high. I don't think I hit the Net once executing it, and in real life, a short slice attempt has to be just perfect. Too high of a net clearance - and it will be not short enough and will be crushed. Too little net clearance and it will hit the net. None of these things happen. It should be more risky, that's all.

[Elias]

I think that all the shots which are considered as too easy to execute would be rendered more risky using Elite controls. Dropping would be a bit more difficult, volleying a smash.. as well, playing some last second defense slice when the ball is bouncing near you feet would lead to an error most of the time, serve aiming would be more sensitive, and more.

By the way, it's another concern but, build 94 introduced a new Fair stat mode to TE wich is not that far from our roster stat scheme, range wise. I found pretty interesting seeing people bitching about it and too long rallies, then Manutoo advising to use Elite controls to shorten it.

[Ugadalou]

Hi Ranma Sao,welcome!I remember you were a massive S&V player in TS4!
If you stick to that style a grass-court match against C4iLL,that would be some vintage tennis match to see!

I have big problem against good servers, it's very hard to read serve when it is perfectly executed. I barely hit aces myself so I would like to know when you start to press direction and when you stop holding direction? I guess there's no secret to return well but at least if I can be a good server myself to hold my server more easily. I play Federer so any tip will be welcome

Quoting from Manutoo's post 'Tips for Online Play', hope this helps :

3- Return of Serve :
b) if like me, u have poor reflexes on the return of serve and get aced like a turtle glued to the court, this tip should greatly help you : press the button down so the autopos will be activated, and as soon as your opponent will serve, your player will begin to move slowly to the left or the right ; for me, it gives a great visual stimulation to which I react about 2 times faster than to the Danger Zone display ; depending of your own reflexes, it may be helping or not ; me, before I was aced about 1.5 times per service game, and after that, only 0.5 times / service game
c) instead of using the autopos trick, you can try to do little left-right steps : it'll give you a lil bonus speed ; but it raises the chances to be caught of the wrong step, so don't do too big left-right moves
d) Try change the distance you stand from the baseline ; go more far if you're close, and vice-versa ; the position you'll be the most comfortable depends of your reflexes & own preferences

Now on the other comment,

Yeah , probably because I have feeling it's often the best server who gonna win match. I remember many matches I was dominant in rallies but because I was more inconsistent on my serve than my opponent, I always get broken and lose.

That reminds me of uhhh.....tennis?? !!


Really that's a realistic part of the game but once you get the hang of returning, you'll see it's not like this.Returning takes a lot longer than any other aspect of the game to improve and maybe it is what makes the difference between a good and a great player.
See you on court!

[Algo4]

I think that all the shots which are considered as too easy to execute would be rendered more risky using Elite controls. Dropping would be a bit more difficult, volleying a smash.. as well, playing some last second defense slice when the ball is bouncing near you feet would lead to an error most of the time, serve aiming would be more sensitive, and more.

By the way, it's another concern but, build 94 introduced a new Fair stat mode to TE wich is not that far from our roster stat scheme, range wise. I found pretty interesting seeing people bitching about it and too long rallies, then Manutoo advising to use Elite controls to shorten it.

This.
And this.

Elite fixes it all.
Markizo (can I laugh here or should I act as a mod anyway?)

[BrushedBigJJ]

I really don't understand the reason this shot exists..Don't give me the ''Federer and other tennis players do it often'' story, because the difference is when they do it the opponent can react and not only get to the ball but attack it too.

In TE no matter which camera you're using this shot's ball trajectory is impossible to read and react.On the best case you'll be able to come up with a short weak reply.Also, because it is executed in the last moment before contact, there is no preparation of it to help you read and react to it.

Well the shot is in real tennis, so any "sim tennis game" should have it. It should just be balanced. And the only player in real life that can consistently attack federers slice backhand is nadal with his forehand. When federer hits it badly everyone attacks it. Now guys like Murray and djokivic can hit a really good rally ball against it most times but they can't consistently attack it.

I agree it's hard to see drop shot and short slices in tennis elbow.

I have another question. I haven't seen the mod players stats in te but I do know how they are divided. If you lower the consistency for bh fh to near zero are errors a lot more frequent or only slightly more frequent? I know drop shot you can't adjust accuracy or consistency so lowering doesn't make it harder to execute.

[Ranma_Sao]

Thanks a lot for your answers and for your tips. I could improve a little bit my returns and my serves . I'm more consistent on returning but serving aces is still very hard for me. Sometimes I break more easily than keeping my serve , is it normal?
Otherwise,I didn't expect someone would remember me as a great SV TS4 player as I only played for few months on ITST. By the way, I played C4ill on xbox (I switched on xbox for few weeks but definitely prefer PS3 tour,I had trouble with xbox pad and xbox live lacked TS4 players) and beated him hardly with my baseliner. His 100 serve stats made him very hard to break lol

[VMoe86]

Thanks a lot for your answers and for your tips. I could improve a little bit my returns and my serves . I'm more consistent on returning but serving aces is still very hard for me. Sometimes I break more easily than keeping my serve , is it normal?

A good server starts the point in a way which is favourable to him: This can be an ace sometimes, but also Federer in reality does not serve many aces. Federer shines through serve placement, he can hit all the spots. If you are good in the rallies, then you don't need to hit aces to hold serve easily.

Otherwise,I didn't expect someone would remember me as a great SV TS4 player as I only played for few months on ITST.

Don't ever mention TS4 again on the TE Forum. I remember we played once, 6-4, 6-4 for you.

By the way, I played C4ill on xbox (I switched on xbox for few weeks but definitely prefer PS3 tour,I had trouble with xbox pad and xbox live lacked TS4 players) and beated him hardly with my baseliner. His 100 serve stats made him very hard to break lol

What does this have to do with TE? Just don't get it, because being good at TS4 does not imply that you are immediately good at TE.

[SlicerITST]

Otherwise,I didn't expect someone would remember me as a great SV TS4 player as I only played for few months on ITST.

Don't ever mention TS4 again on the TE Forum. I remember we played once, 6-4, 6-4 for you.

TS4 is the greatest tennis game ever.

Whatcha gonna do now?

[C4iLL]

By the way, I played C4ill on xbox (I switched on xbox for few weeks but definitely prefer PS3 tour,I had trouble with xbox pad and xbox live lacked TS4 players) and beated him hardly with my baseliner. His 100 serve stats made him very hard to break lol

Mate, it's really anecdotic, but I'm quite sure you never beat me ^^
We indeed played only one set a day when you just began playing on Xbox and I think I won it with a baseliner.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see what you'll do on the TE tour

[Ranma_Sao]

Yeah it's anecdotic like you said but I clearly remember I beated you with my Neuwirth, you had Stephan Schiemer as coach so it was your SV. It was one set but I don't remember if I beated you on tie break or if I won 7-5. I only played few top players from ITST on xbox (Swifty , C4iLL and MrBerson) and beated them. As far as I can remember, I never lost against a SV.
I know TE is very different, I don't think I'll play at a high level (I don't know why but I can feel I won't be that good).

[tdbchess]

Tennis Elbow is THE really simulation tennis game !

[LeapedCastle04]

In the next update i want better collision detection. So those backboarders trip over linesman when they find themselves a mile behind the baseline. It's starting to get ridiculous.
And in his next physical check-up Nadal hears that he has anal cancer due to excessive butt-picking. So he's out too........

[C4iLL]

And in his next physical check-up Nadal hears that he has anal cancer due to excessive butt-picking. So he's out too........

[Martan]

That would be epic