Defense with reflexes ?

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Postby Agassi_Return » Wed, 08 Aug 2012 17:27

I think Ian Moore 8-0-12 fits more to Murrays style. He have also the wrong foot expert skill and good reflexes (74).He lacks only of power (46).
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Postby ILuvBillVal » Wed, 08 Aug 2012 19:40

My jara is a 75.75 fh bh... when I use any shot counter coach I like to try and keep my wings as even as possible. This helps to keep a consistent timing to achieve perfect. Using shot counter is basically a complete waste unless you strive to hit at LEAST 85% perfect in my opinion. Having the serve skill helps to compensate for the lack of serve points as well.
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Postby straightcash05 » Wed, 08 Aug 2012 20:44

ILuvBillVal wrote:My jara is a 75.75 fh bh... when I use any shot counter coach I like to try and keep my wings as even as possible. This helps to keep a consistent timing to achieve perfect. Using shot counter is basically a complete waste unless you strive to hit at LEAST 85% perfect in my opinion. Having the serve skill helps to compensate for the lack of serve points as well.


Hey, what Jara setup gives you 75/75?
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Postby Nadal10 » Wed, 08 Aug 2012 21:37

I see which composition with Jara you use, not enough power, I find... I more thought of turning towards of 1/4/15 or 0/5/15. Opinions?

For Moore, it is not bad, but I cannot play with a guy who has so not enough power...

Otherwise, to answer my questions? Rather Madr or Neuwirth? What is the best composition of Neuwirth? You prefer 0/8/12 or 0/12/8 with Madr (by excepting my conditions).

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Postby maarastone » Thu, 09 Aug 2012 02:28

if you want to play as a defensive baseliner power is not that important wings and speed are the atributes to develop reflexes only help in return of serve or volleys mate hope that helps
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Postby JohnCurveo » Thu, 09 Aug 2012 12:40

@Iluv If u serve with analog, the services goes near the lines with serve stick on Jara? it helps? :O Very interesting coach, i never seen it before. I think i have good skills on defense, and im also a great analog server, could be interesting this coach, im gonna try it
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Postby Nadal10 » Thu, 09 Aug 2012 12:45

Indeed, when we are a defender, we use little the power, but I find that it is a very important skill, I see bad having below 66-70. I thus rest my questions:

- What is the best composition with Jara? 0/5/15 or 1/4/15? (Or other).

- Thomas Madr or Roman Neuwirth?

- Better composition with Neuwirth?

- Madr in 0/8/12 or 0/12/8?

( Quite a lot of these questions are independent from my basic question).

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Postby ILuvBillVal » Thu, 09 Aug 2012 14:59

Well it's no where nearly as effective as Babb but certainly more so than any other 50 serve coach. I'd compare it to maybe a 70's serve with a 60-70 ish power. That's just an estimate.
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Postby Agassi_Return » Thu, 09 Aug 2012 17:46

@Nadal10

What do you expect from a high reflex attribute value?

Try Neuwirth 0-10-10 Speed 71, Power 83, Reflex 60, FH73, BH73.
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Postby ILuvBillVal » Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:34

It improves control shots a bit.
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Postby Agassi_Return » Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:03

ILuvBillVal wrote:It improves control shots a bit.


yes and you can change direction faster...BUT you CANT hit those angels when you play for example with samala or welch cause the FH and BH is not that good.

FH/BH > Reflexes or ALL > Reflexes ;)
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Postby Nadal10 » Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:56

By having a few reflexes, I expect better returns, less opposite, more dynamism, and of precision?

I shall test Roman. Otherwise, for my questions? Thank you.
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Postby Agassi_Return » Thu, 09 Aug 2012 23:39

Nadal10 wrote:By having a few reflexes, I expect better returns,


Yes but its useless in WT Mode because most of the opp. plays with power >90 and serve >90. I tried all of these settings with high reflexes value but there is NO ssetting which give you the same powerfull returns as with agassi or joker.

precision?


Hmm no...perhaps in timing but overall your shots are not more precise.

Reflexes are the most overrated attribute when it comes to play in WT Mode. Thats why i give you an advice to pick samala for WT Mode:

0-1-19

FH 81, BH83, Power 67, Speed 82, Stamina 93.

or

0-2-18

Fh79, BH81, Power 71, Speed 79, Stamina 92.

:)
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Postby DennieFR1908 » Fri, 10 Aug 2012 01:03

Agassi_Return wrote:
Nadal10 wrote:By having a few reflexes, I expect better returns,


Yes but its useless in WT Mode because most of the opp. plays with power >90 and serve >90. I tried all of these settings with high reflexes value but there is NO ssetting which give you the same powerfull returns as with agassi or joker.



Partly true, it's not as easy to make those returns, but its possible to hit returns of the same quality. Only much harder, more realistic to execute. Problem is that I hardly ever saw anyone doing those returns, gues ppl just don't know how to :)

I think reflexes in general is underrated and it's a very effective stat.
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Postby Nadal10 » Fri, 10 Aug 2012 10:46

I have already found my official composition, there, I just want to test the other things for the versatility of the game. And seen that Murray has no enormous statistics in certain sectors, I said to myself that it was his reflexes which compensated for everything.

Otherwise, concerning my questions? Madr or Neuwirth? And what compo ' for Jara (0/5/15 or 1/4/15)?:D

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