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Postby JohnCurveo » Tue, 24 Jul 2012 03:50

I don't know if it is chessy or it isn't. I need a clear answer.
For me serve is everything. And i have this question since the beginning of my itst adventure. I also didn't do the opposite just not to be "cheesy". Also i asked a manager and i didnt get any response.
Why is unfair to put ur player 1 step away from centerline when ure serving? I never do it on itst, when i was starting someone told me it is cheesy so i didnt do it again. But i dont see the point really. Tramline serve is stupid, that's clear. But 1 step? It's normal that when u play tennis u move a little bit to get more angle. So i dont understand why its unrealistic moving 1 step my player.
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Postby Rob ITST » Tue, 24 Jul 2012 04:34

If 1 is ok, then why not 2 steps? It's just one more step. If 2 is ok, then why not 3? It's just one more step.

There has to be a limit, so we set the rule as the default position. Plus, the game automatically moves you wide as the game progresses - if you take one step, you end up being pretty close to the tramline.
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Postby straightcash05 » Tue, 24 Jul 2012 06:49

Rob ITST wrote:Plus, the game automatically moves you wide as the game progresses.


I've played a few people who never step in after a few service games, and end up two steps out and tramline serving, then never step back in. Even at the beginning of the second set sometimes. And some will wait until they have a good lead late in a set/match then step in and serve. It's pretty annoying, because they'll deny that they were tramline serving citing that they didn't ever step out themselves, not that this should matter, the rules say to step in after every few service games. And these guys would do this and use the slice out wide, so they clearly were trying to be sly.
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Postby wdob1985 » Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:19

The serving in the centre rule does this apply to the regular tour?
I though this was just for the pro tour
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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:59

Default position? Isn't default position already one step away from centre line. Anyways I think that while serving from deuce side you should be close to centre line and while serving from ad court side only one step away from centre line is a good idea. That's what federer do
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Postby JohnCurveo » Tue, 24 Jul 2012 11:33

@Rob I believe u don't understand me, because my explication really sucks. I will put a video and then u can tell me if it is cheesy or not. Im not talking about putting my player wider than default position. Im talking about moving my player for serve just 1 step when he's on deuce side and too close to centreline. 2 steps is wider than default. I read on the forums that u can move your player between default position and centreline. That's why im confused.
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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Tue, 24 Jul 2012 11:55

Watch my first service game against shocase in Wimbledon final. I served standing close to centre line while on deuce side, while one step away from centre line when standing on ad court side.

If you move one step away from centre line while serving in deuce side the the game will automatically move you to tramlines. So it shouldnt be done in my opinion. So stand fully close to centre line when serving from deuce side

But if you move one step away from centre line when in ad court then game will automatically move you close to the centre line which is a good thing and not cheesy. So moving only one step away from the centre line(not default position) when serving from ad court is acceptable in my opinion.
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Postby JohnCurveo » Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:21

I was talking about ad side. My mistake.
But if you move one step away from centre line when in ad court then game will automatically move you close to the centre line which is a good thing and not cheesy. So moving only one step away from the centre line(not default position) when serving from ad court is acceptable in my opinion.


This is what im talking about. Video soon.
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Postby JohnCurveo » Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:02

Here video. Im talking about be able to decide if i serve from 1 step or close to the centerline.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcWT4mxC ... e=youtu.be
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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:12

Only one step away when in ad court is ok but not in deuce court
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Postby Furicle » Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:48

Why not in Deuce court ? I think that if Ad court is OK, Deuce court should be OK too. (You must mean for right-handed player, I guess we invert if the player is left-handed :P )
BTW you say Ad is OK and Deuce is not OK. Is this an official rule or your opinion ?
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Postby Sh0Case » Tue, 24 Jul 2012 18:10

I find it funny when people take a step away from the middle to serve, especially when they have been serving as close to the centre line as possible for the previous points.
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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Tue, 24 Jul 2012 18:34

Sh0Case wrote:I find it funny when people take a step away from the middle to serve, especially when they have been serving as close to the centre line as possible for the previous points.


Yea for you it's funny cuz you already use a defensive setup and you don't use your serv to get aces or to catch the lines. You simply use button serv for which positioning is not that important. For guys like me and John using a offensive setup we need to collect points using serv so for us positioning is important.

@Furicle.. It's just my opinion cuz I already mentioned in a post above that the game will move you to tramlines while serving from deuce side so theres no need to take one step away from centre line while serving from deuce side. In ad side if you move one step away from centre line then the game will move you close to centre line automatically. And btw federer in real life stands one step away while serving from ad court side and close to the line when serving from deuce side
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Postby Furicle » Tue, 24 Jul 2012 22:14

Yeah, the game will move you automatically toward the tramline, but it will be really effective after several points if I'm not mistaking, not for the current point. Nothing prevent you to regularly move yourself to re-adjust the server's position if it seems his position is too close to the tramline after several points.
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Postby JohnCurveo » Wed, 25 Jul 2012 01:17

Well, if i play like today, doesn't matter 1 step or not. I cant win a shit. :lol:
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