Tennis Elbow 2011

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Postby eliomelma » Fri, 01 Jun 2012 12:06

Elias wrote:1.0e is out !

http://www.managames.com/Forum/topic15-7450.php

New Features :
- New Strike Styles, Return Stances & Gestures : a good bunch of animations created by Neeky McDeez, Lucian86, m4n4c0r & Jono4Sure have been integrated to the game !

Changes :
- Gameplay : short slice is a bit less short
- Gameplay : left/right speed change is now slightly slower (this will be active Online only after the end of the current Slam)
- Gameplay : using B1 for 2nd serve is tiring like half an acceleration
- Gameplay : backhand slice span raised a bit, so it's now a bit wider than the 1H-BH
- Online : players don't rest anymore if a desynch occurs before the returner hits the ball
- Online : game engine optimized when playing with high Delay, so not powerful computers should be able to play with a better framerate

Bug Fixes:
- Animation : fixed the jumping legs making the player looking like he's levitating (it was happening mainly on gestures)
- Online : unending desync on 1st point with tiredness on fixed
- Online : rewriting of the engine calculation system so it can't create desynch anymore ; bad network, game modding & bugs still can create desynch though
- Match Replay : .dmo shouldn't desync anymore as well

Notes :
- Changelog of previous versions is here : topic15-5863.php
- ==> For Modders <== : if you add serve styles, it may still desync if you try to play online with them, even if your opponent has installed the exact same anim than you ; read here for more info : [ Link Coming Soon ... Need to write new anim Modding topic ]


the last info about custom serves means we still can have desyncs with custom serve animations .. to be tested.. if this doesnt resolve serve desyncs i suggest we remove any custom serves wich create desycns, using only TE vanilla serve animations (there is still several available).


what could i do, install a new game with new build, sam patch without paks and build and ITST patch 1.03 without paks? Or follow the forum "What you need to get started"?
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Postby Elias » Fri, 01 Jun 2012 12:09

install the new version 1.0e.

with Sam patch : without paks & build files.

& ITST 1.02 , or ITST 1.03 without paks files.
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Postby eliomelma » Fri, 01 Jun 2012 12:12

thanks :)
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Postby Elias » Fri, 01 Jun 2012 12:21

wooot i missed this :

New Features :
- New Strike Styles, Return Stances & Gestures : a good bunch of animations created by Neeky McDeez, Lucian86, m4n4c0r & Jono4Sure have been integrated to the game !


thats great Manutoo ! :)

i'll have to check then the anims numbers and remap them correctly for ITST patch :) Hope this will still no be a problem having those anims as external ones with current Sam patch but i'm a bit scared to get wrong anims on some chars now because of the increased number anims in the game (?), have to check this.
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Postby Elias » Fri, 01 Jun 2012 12:53

we just did some test with Elio playing Djokovic vs. Djokovic : 0 desyncs so far :!: :!: :!: :!: :D

I have not much time today for testing more, let's test some other chars and report whenever you have some time for it.
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Postby Elias » Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:12

just tested dolgopolov vs djokovic and got loads of desyncs :/ (me or Elio hosting, unplayable)

djokovic / murray : no desyncs

djoko / nadal : lot of desyncs when i hosted, no desyncs when Elio hosted.

We'll still have to check wich modded anims exactly have been integrated to TE core, and map them to the right chars, insteed of using external anims from sam patch, i guess it would be better. Some work ahead.
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Postby Elias » Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:02

well i just checked Vanilla TE 1.0e and there is loads of anims included in the game now, so i think it's probably not a good idea to use sam patch 2011 with external modded anims anymore.

We'll have to build our roster mostly with included animations if we want to play desync free i guess, even if we have to drop some chars, i think it's a better option.
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Postby C4iLL » Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:24

But we won't have the real design of the characters no ? And the courts ?
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Postby Elias » Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:41

C4iLL wrote:But we won't have the real design of the characters no ? And the courts ?


sure we will, outfits textures or courts are not tied to animations. therefore i can add the right textures/faces outfits for the chars we will select.
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Postby Elias » Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:51

Now what would be very useful for me is a list of anims with their corresponding owner (pro player) in vanilla TE 1.0e; Though i will check
in the carreer mode, those anims are probably (?) already affected
to their respective owners.
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Postby eliomelma » Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:00

If the problem is that 1-2-3 create desync, until new sam patch we can not use them, but remains with others chars with real movements, for example prefer to not use dolgopov( for now until it is fixed) but play with the beautiful anims of Federer ( his movement's serve is even at real) and he others perfect anims by Sam patch, and not play with real courts, outfits, but without real movement's of players. So in this ipothesis we can see only the players that for now created problems( sure dolgopov ).
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Postby Elias » Sat, 02 Jun 2012 14:21

// Sampras => s0 f8 b2 r8
// Federer => s1 f1/16 b1/3 bs1/3 r0/4
// Nadal => s2/10 f3/17 b1 r7
// Nadal Fh normal => f2
// Djokovic => s3/12 f4/17 b1/11 r3
// Roddick => s4 f5 b1
// Kafelnikov => b2
// Sharapova => s5 f6 b3
// Serena Williams => s6 f7 b4
// Basic (ex-Fed) => s7
// Berdych => s8 f9 b5 bs2 r1
// Murray => s9 f10 b10 bs6 r2
// Nalbandian => f11 b6 bs4
// Ferrer => f15 b7
// Tsonga => f14 b8
// Del Potro => f12 b9
// Gonzalez => s11 f13 b5 bs5 r5
// Monfils => r6


List of motions included in the game. Still would be a very limited roster in comparison to our current one..

we'll probably have to wait for some anim modders to make their new serves compatible for online mode i guess.
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Postby manutoo » Sat, 02 Jun 2012 14:39

Elias,
it's easy enough to make the serves to work online without desync. Check the topic I pointed out to you yesterday ; you just have to do a few copy/paste in the correct files for each serve style.
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Postby Elias » Sat, 02 Jun 2012 14:44

manutoo wrote:Elias,
it's easy enough to make the serves to work online without desync. Check the topic I pointed out to you yesterday ; you just have to do a few copy/paste in the correct files for each serve style.


Ok Manu i just checked it. Seems pretty simple indeed, i will try to check all the custom serves we are using then and update the corresponding service.txt files :!:
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Postby Elias » Sat, 02 Jun 2012 14:48

new build/update :

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Build 86, June 2nd:

Bug Fixes :
- Gameplay : resting rate while idling was overly wrong
- Outfit : fixed a bug about how outfit models are displayed
- Online : when playing with tiredness on and losing network packets, it could set the energy to 0 & give unending desynch on the current point
- Animation : fixed a bug preventing to load the extra gestures ; now, when you select your forehand, it'll change the gestures you can do, in some cases
- World Tour : v1.0d saved games weren't correctly converted
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