Warm-up Tournament 1 official thread

[VMoe86]

Yesterday I played against kyuuji as follows:

1. Latest version of Tennis Elbow 2011.

2. Installed Sam Patch 2011 without any .pak files.

3. Latest ITST Patch without .pak file and without build.txt and buildmac.txt.

I hosted the match and on when he served there were quite a few Desync's, which could be dealt with by moving a bit around when returning. On my serve it worked flawlessly, except for that Desync when I hit that smash.

Against Slicer I had no Desyncs when playing with Tennis Elbow 2011 and only "Profiles" folder from ITST Patch. If Sam Patch is the reason for all these problem, then I'd vote for getting rid of it -- I don't need the animations, courts and outfits to enjoy Tennis Elbow.

[eliomelma]

. If Sam Patch is the reason for all these problem, then I'd vote for getting rid of it -- I don't need the animations, courts and outfits to enjoy Tennis Elbow.[/quote]

For me animations , courts and outfits make the game amazing and without its the game grafic is bad and not of this generations games . If the price to pay is low desync i would pay it and have a beautiful grafic

[C4iLL]

I play sometimes with the vanilla version, the animations are really better with the sam patch :/
It would be a big loss to play without it

[eliomelma]

Vanilla version? What is this

[C4iLL]

Without any other files, patches etc. The original version

[eliomelma]

Elias and kyuuji records your Final match , it will be' a great Final !

[kyuuji]

It will be a .dmo file
Just waiting his answer

[Elias]

Against Slicer I had no Desyncs when playing with Tennis Elbow 2011 and only "Profiles" folder from ITST Patch. If Sam Patch is the reason for all these problem, then I'd vote for getting rid of it -- I don't need the animations, courts and outfits to enjoy Tennis Elbow.

i would say i don't need the courts / outfits if we have to choose to remove something, but the pro & anims are really a great addition to TE to live without in my opinion.

I'm pretty sure those versions mismatch are fixable and will be fixed by the mod team, but it's also true that the less modifications we use, more easy it'll be to create a flawless/compatible patch for each TE update incoming.

For now i agree playing tournaments with desyncs is not a good idea, not only it's really annoying, but this also kills stamina management concept, because everytime there is a desync, player stamina is refilled like between two rallies.

personnaly i agree some 2d court ambiance is very nice, but i don't like using 2D courts because they have a fixed camera, and i don't like having to adapt to a new camera view each time i play on a different court. In 3d mode i set up my cam view and use the same one playing all my matches.
I'm using a decent computer (quad core, 8800gts), never had a slow down issue, though by caution i always turn off public and umpires / chairs, only using 3d court, players & a ball

[kyuuji]

Kyuuji def. Elias 6/1 6/4

A very tought match ! I was dominating most of the points, he shoould have continued with his top spins, it forced me to make a mistake. He has a very good serve but I always managed to get his service.

The 2nd set was much better, we keep on winning our service, then he broke me at 3/3 and was leading 4/3.
I manage to save a ball to lead 5/3, and finally broke him back.
Thanks to his mistakes !

Anyway it was a very cool match, and I really enjoyed it !

[VMoe86]

I'm pretty sure those versions mismatch are fixable and will be fixed by the mod team, but it's also true that the less modifications we use, more easy it'll be to create a flawless/compatible patch for each TE update incoming.

I think removing all .pak files from Sam Patch and ITST Patch as well as the build.txt and buildmac.txt would help a great deal, because these files are the main source for Desyncs in the ITST Tour.

Yesterday I played against JJ_DUBZ with TE and only "Profiles" folder from ITST Patch -- not a single Desync.

For now i agree playing tournaments with desyncs is not a good idea, not only it's really annoying, but this also kills stamina management concept, because everytime there is a desync, player stamina is refilled like between two rallies.

Agree with you and there is also the 1st serve / 2nd serve issue: With these Desync problems you almost always have a first serve.

I'm using a decent computer (quad core, 8800gts), never had a slow down issue, though by caution i always turn off public and umpires / chairs, only using 3d court, players & a ball

I have an old PC (from 2007), only got a new mainboard in 2009 and again I chose one with an on-board graphics card. On full details some 3D courts are only running at 37.5 FPS (but constant), some are running at 60 FPS with rare drops to 55 FPS. Lowering some details it is running at constant 60 FPS. Not a surprise since TE isn't anything spectacular graphically.

EDIT: Congrats to kyuuji!

[kyuuji]

There's a tip if you don't want to get desynch:

The returner has to move a little.

[VMoe86]

There's a tip if you don't want to get desynch:

The returner has to move a little.

This only helps when there are no files from older versions (like .pak files in Sam Patch 2011 or ITST Patch). It is almost unplayable when files from version 1.0c are mixed with the newer version of the game.

[Elias]

Well i removed all pak and build/buildmac files from sam/itst when applying the patches, but still had desyncs. when i didnt removed those pak/build files then anyway i got errors when lauching the game and TE would'nt work at all.

Kyuuju is right about this tip, i could appreciate this during our match. Most desynch were on my serve as i was hosting, but kyuuji managed to lower those, moving a bit continually (little moves left right) when i was about to serve, desync were really less frequent then.

As for our match i lost 1-6 4-6 and this was expected, but it was a nice match to play, i had to get focused and really play my best to get a chance and i could give him a good fight in the second set, even leading with a break for some time, so i'm pretty happy with it and i think we can expect some exciting matches in the future

I recorded the match, here is the .dmo file if you want to watch it :

http://depositfiles.com/files/85uwrcnr7

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[VMoe86]

Well i removed all pak and build/buildmac files from sam/itst when applying the patches, but still had desyncs. when i didnt removed those pak/build files then anyway i got errors when lauching the game and TE would'nt work at all.

I didn't say there are no Desyncs when doing this, but they are at least manageable with that tip of kyuuji.

The content of the build.txt can be edited by yourself, so just type in the correct date of the version: Right now it is "20120402", before that it was "20120308" etc. and buildmac.txt can be ignored for Windows users anyways. In ITST Patch and Sam Patch there are still the old dates for the version, that's the reason why TE does not start properly when you just install everything.

[Elias]

Agree with you and there is also the 1st serve / 2nd serve issue: With these Desync problems you almost always have a first serve.

Regarding this issue : i personnaly never use this advantage, if i miss a first serve and i get a desync, i always serve a second serve nevertheless, i think this is the only right/fair attitude in this case. And when i hit an ace and got desynched, i can see most of my opponents offering me the point also, so i just hope all people will be fair play like this.

Though i hope this desynch issue will be fixed soon, because the game has really more appeal for me with those new models/anims/outfits (maybe ManuToo will integrate those in a future update so we can expect the game to run flawlessly without desyncs ?)