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Postby DennieFR1908 » Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:33

Tamthewasp wrote:Had a match with Ary. My Pavel Douzhy vs hos coach. The balance seems to have returned with more emphasis on working your into the point rather than previously when you had such strong weapons to just smash your way through an opponent.

It was a very close match tight rallies. Just generally a lot more fun feeling.


Yea I already knew that, I've played matches with more allround setups before it adds alot of variety to the game it's much more fun.. That's why I liked to see a sim tour with higher stats too so you can combine variety with also good skilled setups. I'm glad they now came up with an idea like this.

Altough I doubt that setups like Dlouhy will now be able to compete with the best. Ofcourse I hope I'm wrong, but I think the dominant setups will still remain, but the fact they are now less "specialized" is a good thing.
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Postby Corbon » Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:37

The min 42 rule basically turns any 0-15-5 spec into 1-15-4 which is not a great loss but then you won't unlock Grody anymore but Meoki instead (latter one has 0-4-4, why isn't he unlocked if you put OBL and DBL points step by step)? Gallo 1-18-1 is still possible thanks to his +3 Speed.
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Postby DennieFR1908 » Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:40

Your wrong, his volley is 40 with that combination. You've just gave the perfect example why they added that rule.

edit: See you changed 0-18-2 to 1-18-1, but ur wrong again, he now has 2 grey stats.
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Postby Tamthewasp » Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:42

DennieFR1908 wrote:
Tamthewasp wrote:Had a match with Ary. My Pavel Douzhy vs hos coach. The balance seems to have returned with more emphasis on working your into the point rather than previously when you had such strong weapons to just smash your way through an opponent.

It was a very close match tight rallies. Just generally a lot more fun feeling.


Yea I already knew that, I've played matches with more allround setups before it adds alot of variety to the game it's much more fun.. That's why I liked to see a sim tour with higher stats too so you can combine variety with also good skilled setups. I'm glad they now came up with an idea like this.

Altough I doubt that setups like Dlouhy will now be able to compete with the best. Ofcourse I hope I'm wrong, but I think the dominant setups will still remain, but the fact they are now less "specialized" is a good thing.



The shot counter skill will keep him competing with the big hitters and yes the Rabary players will still probably opt for a lesser rabary but hey it's all about trying them out 2 see if the can.
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Postby DennieFR1908 » Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:47

Tamthewasp wrote:
The shot counter skill will keep him competing with the big hitters and yes the Rabary players will still probably opt for a lesser rabary but hey it's all about trying them out 2 see if the can.


You know which alround setup might be able to compete now? The unbanned chesire (1-11-8 ) I'm gonna try him out also moriya (1-13-6) seems like a good option
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Postby djarvik » Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:50

Corbon wrote:The min 42 rule basically turns any 0-15-5 spec into 1-15-4 which is not a great loss but then you won't unlock Grody anymore but Meoki instead (latter one has 0-4-4, why isn't he unlocked if you put OBL and DBL points step by step)? Gallo 1-18-1 is still possible thanks to his +3 Speed.


None of what you say here is right :P sorry man. Download he player calculator and see for yourself.
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Postby Tamthewasp » Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:51

DennieFR1908 wrote:
Tamthewasp wrote:
The shot counter skill will keep him competing with the big hitters and yes the Rabary players will still probably opt for a lesser rabary but hey it's all about trying them out 2 see if the can.


You know which alround setup might be able to compete now? The unbanned chesire I'm gonna try him out also moriya seems like a good option



Yh I said earlier Chesire will be 1 of the stronger coaches. I think Ary had Moriya it is a good setup. My bickham is looking ok with an 82FH not much in the way of power though. I've got 3 or 4 setups made. I'll give you a few sets later if your up for it.
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Postby DennieFR1908 » Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:54

Also 1-13-6 Nagano and 1-13-6 Milango look like good AB perhaps ppl can try them out in the test tournament
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Postby DennieFR1908 » Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:55

Tamthewasp wrote:
DennieFR1908 wrote:
Tamthewasp wrote:
The shot counter skill will keep him competing with the big hitters and yes the Rabary players will still probably opt for a lesser rabary but hey it's all about trying them out 2 see if the can.


You know which alround setup might be able to compete now? The unbanned chesire I'm gonna try him out also moriya seems like a good option



Yh I said earlier Chesire will be 1 of the stronger coaches. I think Ary had Moriya it is a good setup. My bickham is looking ok with an 82FH not much in the way of power though. I've got 3 or 4 setups made. I'll give you a few sets later if your up for it.


Have to sleep early today perhaps 2morrow.. Bickham is fine but his lack of power f*cks him up..
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Postby Agassi_Return » Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:38

So Welch is banned right? :D
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Postby Corbon » Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:39

djarvik wrote:
Corbon wrote:The min 42 rule basically turns any 0-15-5 spec into 1-15-4 which is not a great loss but then you won't unlock Grody anymore but Meoki instead (latter one has 0-4-4, why isn't he unlocked if you put OBL and DBL points step by step)? Gallo 1-18-1 is still possible thanks to his +3 Speed.


None of what you say here is right :P sorry man. Download he player calculator and see for yourself.


Uh I have it, I was wrong on Gallo though. (1-17-2 works)

0-15-5 Babb has 38 Volley
0-15-5 Rabary has 38 Volley
0-15-5 Neuwirth has...38 Volley.

Didn't bother with Grody or Brown because no one was using them before.
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Postby djarvik » Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:49

I guess I misunderstood what you said or the point.

Honestly, there is only a hand full of coaches that won't be available because of that particular rule. Most coaches are getting knocked out because of the Skill Ban.
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Postby Corbon » Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:56

Yeah if anything it will make the "lesser" coaches much more interesting.

Madr has that wonderful +5 on Volley which allows a 0-12-8 build for example.
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Postby straightcash05 » Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:59

DennieFR1908 wrote:
Tamthewasp wrote:
The shot counter skill will keep him competing with the big hitters and yes the Rabary players will still probably opt for a lesser rabary but hey it's all about trying them out 2 see if the can.


You know which alround setup might be able to compete now? The unbanned chesire (1-11-8 ) I'm gonna try him out


I made that exact setup. 3 FH, 1 BH. Has a 82 FH, 72 BH, 68 serve, 42 volley, 74 power, 76 stamina, 66 speed, 50 reflexes. Great all-around setup.
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Postby Tamthewasp » Tue, 27 Mar 2012 23:05

straightcash05 wrote:
DennieFR1908 wrote:
Tamthewasp wrote:
The shot counter skill will keep him competing with the big hitters and yes the Rabary players will still probably opt for a lesser rabary but hey it's all about trying them out 2 see if the can.


You know which alround setup might be able to compete now? The unbanned chesire (1-11-8 ) I'm gonna try him out


I made that exact setup. 3 FH, 1 BH. Has a 82 FH, 72 BH, 68 serve, 42 volley, 74 power, 76 stamina, 66 speed, 50 reflexes. Great all-around setup.


Think 87 67 would be stronger. My Chesire has 81FH 71FH
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