Rafa vs Federer

by **Moralspain** » Sat, 10 Mar 2012 09:38

Finally, after all these years these two are starting to have some issues

1st was Rafa saying:

"For him it's good to say nothing. Everything positive. 'It's all well and good for me, I look like a gentleman,' and the rest can burn themselves"

and now is Federer who attacks

“I’m not complaining a lot, but I don’t know how you can go through a four-hour match with Rafa and he never gets a time violation. It’s natural that even I would go over time, but they never call it. There are times when they could be a bit more firm because at the end of the day I don’t know if fans are getting frustrated to watch five points that are going to take us five minutes.”

HELL YEAH now that Djokovic and Murray seem to be the next top guys and there's no so much sport rivalry between Rafa and Roger anymore they can finally show their true face. Better late than never

by **VillaJ100** » Sat, 10 Mar 2012 10:03

The time violations are too far. True these players have great stamina, but I could play harder for longer if I had twice as long to recover. I wouldn't mind a shot clock coming in.

by **Ali-Iqb93** » Sat, 10 Mar 2012 10:20

Yer its true watching rafa playing gets frustrating sometimes with his long pauses in between points. Novak also takes pause sometimes but still that looks real. Whereas nadal is just faking it most of the times by setting his bandana, setting his hair, itching his butt lol etc etc etc.

by **Moralspain** » Sat, 10 Mar 2012 10:24

As a spectator i don't have a problem with the time guys take between points, and in my opinion Nadal took more time in the past, when his tennis were more physically demanding, than now, now yes he takes more time than Fed, that's obvious, but not more than Djokovic.
But yeah if they want to set a clock like in basketball is ok, it can be fun

by **L Sanchez MD** » Sat, 10 Mar 2012 12:48

I can't stand the amount of time wasting that Nadal and Djokovic do during every match. It's difficult to watch.

However, if you watch the interview, Federer was very far from 'attacking' Nadal. He made it clear that he wasn't trying to stir things up, and that the real problem lies with the umpires not enforcing the rule.

by **Tamthewasp** » Sat, 10 Mar 2012 13:04

It's an indirect attack on Nadal. It does take ages and is off putting watching this malarky.

I'd much rather watch 2 players outside top 50 than Nadal these days.

by **Moralspain** » Sat, 10 Mar 2012 13:09

well Mr Federer is a gentleman, but the main point here is that he doesn't understand why Nadal doesn't get a warning during his matches, he mentioned Nadal, don't call it "attack" if you wish but he doesn't care if other players take more than 20secs during points, ex Djokovic, his obsession is , still, Nadal, when there's no need to point that out again, i highly doubt we see another 5 hours match between these 2 anymore, but this is easy to solve, like Villa said they just have to set a clock, and the economical cost would not be so much

by **VillaJ100** » Sat, 10 Mar 2012 13:19

It would be well funny to have a klaxon sound and be like beep beep beep.... NEEERRRR "Time violation Mr. Nadal". For a guy so superstitious and with his routines it would be priceless to see the look on his face

by **Moralspain** » Sat, 10 Mar 2012 13:32

VillaJ100 wrote:It would be well funny to have a klaxon sound and be like beep beep beep.... NEEERRRR "Time violation Mr. Nadal". For a guy so superstitious and with his routines it would be priceless to see the look on his face

hahaha yeah that would be great, the klaxon is the key

by **Ali-Iqb93** » Sat, 10 Mar 2012 13:38

Nadal takes long breaks just to break the momentum of his opponent and to recover his stamina a bit. This isn't sportsmanship. Novak takes pause as well but he doesn't waste time to set his hair or setting his wrist bands etc like nadal do. Taking time to bounce the ball before serving like Novak do is normal in my opinion but on the other hand wasting time in setting your bandana, hair etc etc etc watever that nadal do is really annoying

by **Ali-Iqb93** » Sat, 10 Mar 2012 13:40

And another trick that nadal do to break someones momentum is to call his physio for medical timeout lol.

by **Moralspain** » Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:17

how on earth then he got in 2010 the Stefan Edberg Sportsmanship Award, which btw was voted on by his fellow players, i see Fed fans are still resentful towards Rafa because all he took away from Fed all these years, sorry for that guys

by **L Sanchez MD** » Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:19

I think Rafa is the worst and most consistent violator of the rule, but you're right, Djokovic, and del Potro are also very bad.

I heard that Rafa actually used to be very quick to start a new point, but Tio Toni made him slow down and go through rituals to gain concentration.
It's way too slow, though, and no doubt puts off many opponents. (Remember the famous altercation with Soderling at Wim?)

by **Moralspain** » Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:23

L Sanchez MD wrote:I think Rafa is the worst and most consistent violator of the rule, but you're right, Djokovic, and del Potro are also very bad.

I heard that Rafa actually used to be very quick to start a new point, but Tio Toni made him slow down and go through rituals to gain concentration.
It's way too slow, though, and no doubt puts off many opponents. (Remember the famous altercation with Soderling at Wim?)

i agree with all you said, but anyone here believes that he has achieved in tennis is because he has been taking consistently more than 20 sec between points in all his matches? come on!!, it helps him? yeah of course, otherwise he doesn't do it, but i don't think it's the key of his career success, ...annoying? maybe, and if he's beating your favorite player then there's no doubt it's annoying as hell

by **L Sanchez MD** » Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:29

I don't believe that what he achieved in tennis is just because he takes 40 seconds between points.
I never said anything like that.... I just said it's annoying!

Sure, it would be annoying if he's doing it when beating your favourite player, but what annoys me most is when Rafa plays Novak. Then it happens on both sides, and an extra hour gets added to the match time (not even exaggerating!)

Novak at times can bounce the ball a maddening amount of times.

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