Am i a cheat?

[Fifa Tee]

as you want if you don't want open your eyes.
Just take this test:

Wait at the xbox360 dashboard and get invited by your opponent so you accept the invitation to play, you then bypass the connexion to the Topspin 4 server play and you can see the difference as:

Longer of the ball, much power better angle and move faster.
So you have now a glitch player.
I think all the itst player must know this.

There are another way to have a glitch player, deconexion your network, launch ts4 wait till the menu and reconnect the network.

If you play with a player who have more than 70+ power you see a HUGE difference.

Bye

Honestly Tdbchess

I just play for fun but i don't like cheater it's just about that.

I invited you to our match, so how could i be cheating? you were the one proclaiming that you would "cheat to beat the cheater", and this explains why you were on dashboard before accepting my invites, and you still cheated with the drop shots? Thats poor. Come on man, be cool.

[VMoe86]

Just like Firderis I only want to confirm that tdbchess is right, but it is better to inform the ITST Staff - like I did almost a week ago when I found out about it - instead of posting a "How to play TS4 without patch" on the forum. Players not following the forum won't know how to avoid it, so it is really up to the ITST Staff to inform ALL players.

@tdbchess, Gotenkssan and Fifa Tee: Please edit your posts.

[ELTXETXU]

as you want if you don't want open your eyes.
Just take this test:

Wait at the xbox360 dashboard and get invited by your opponent so you accept the invitation to play, you then bypass the connexion to the Topspin 4 server play and you can see the difference as:

Longer of the ball, much power better angle and move faster.
So you have now a glitch player.
I think all the itst player must know this.

There are another way to have a glitch player, deconexion your network, launch ts4 wait till the menu and reconnect the network.

If you play with a player who have more than 70+ power you see a HUGE difference.

I just want to confirm tdbchess in this point, in the ps3-version it is exactly the same problem. you can play - if invited - with pre-patch-balancing. In addition these players are able to perform better shots in bad positions. it's very unfair and annoying.

PS: I am not intervening in the discussion if the players mentionned here are cheaters, I just wanted to state that tdbchess is NOT talking crap in this point, it is exactly how he described it.

How do you know that?? Just curious. And how could i know that my oponent is using a glitch player? It's possible that he has a perfect timing and not a glicht player. Is the diference so big?

And yeah, i think that is not a good idea to post how to do this glicht in the forum, but if it exists all of us should know it.

[wdob1985]

I don't think fifa or showcase are cheats.I don't like the way they play hitting control shots all the time but it's not a banned form of playing so it's all fair.ive been called a cheat this week as well. I think it just comes from bad losers

[Fifa Tee]

before our match i was thinking, that if i win, he will call me a cheat. and i didnt consider losing as i only expect to lose to 6 players on the xbox tour. his theory means that i cannot prove that i dont cheat, and he cannot prove that i do cheat which is stupid. his proof is my perfect control shots that hit the sidelines. my proof is my word. at the end of the day, i dont cheat, that is all. thanks.

[lucagiaco]

sh0case and fifa tee are simply very good players.

[wdob1985]

I played fifa tee today I don't believe he is a cheat.the problem is he knows how to hit a perfect control shot which I believe is a glitch because the shot is just to good to play against.

I do have doubts about some other players but I think fifa tee is not a cheat

[C4iLL]

Personally I have played them a lot, I haven't any proof that they use exploits or no, but this is true for every players on the tour.

And I don't think you can proove anything with videos.

The only thing I noticed by the past was that games against them were more laggy than the average, but recently our match weren't laggy anymore so nothing to say about that.

So i'm neutral on this story.

ps : what is true anyway, is that fifa tee hit the most amazing angles on the tour with Loki (and I think that Loki hit a little bit more crazy angles than fifa does currently !)

[djarvik]

Just to confirm, the glitch is legit. It exists. We also believe there is more then one way to achieve a pre-update player. We are investigating this at this moment.

Once we done isolating all ways of doing it, we will release a rule attempting to prevent it.

In the meantime, I suggest you ask your opponent to log-in to WT first, this way at least one of the ways of achieving a pre-update player will be eliminated. We working on resolution for others.


Please refrain from publicly accusing players, just sent your suspicions to the hosts. We will gather an analyze the information.

[Ali-Iqb93]

Publicly discussing this will have one big disadvantage that whenever you will beat someone your opponent will accuse that we are using prepatched player..

[djarvik]

Indeed. But at this point we need to acknowledge the problem. Resolution is near and the complaints that may increase because of this, will help us identify better the possible users, as they will be dealt with once we release the rule.

[LokiSharpShootr]

Indeed. But at this point we need to acknowledge the problem. Resolution is near and the complaints that may increase because of this, will help us identify better the possible users, as they will be dealt with once we release the rule.

I hope this rule will be specefic and fair because we really dont need to give the people on this website more reasons to bitch when they lose.

[Ali-Iqb93]

Sometimes even wen u go through all those loading screens but still shots seems powerful.. I think it also depends upon connection between two players.. Better connection more powerful shots.. Laggy matches less powerful shots

[Avinash PatelBANNED]

Wait - so these guys hv bn using pre patched plyrs?

This is just anothr reason why ts4 is so useless as a game. It has hd over 4 updates since releace...and still sum are plyin with old some r playing with new....

Complete joke.

[Cro Morgan]

Wait - so these guys hv bn using pre patched plyrs?

This is just anothr reason why ts4 is so useless as a game. It has hd over 4 updates since releace...and still sum are plyin with old some r playing with new....

Complete joke.

I'd like to buy an "A" Pat.