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Postby DarkTunde » Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:57

@ Painted Crystal: Sorry, but that's just the way it rolls in gaming, sports and life. People will use use the best, most powerful etc thing that gives them the best chance of winning. We might as well ask 'why do people cheat?'

(NOTE: I'm not accusing any Welch, Rabary etc users of cheating! Just pointing out a related issue on the road of desire to victory.)

The lack of variety is a disappointment but really not that surprising. It happens in many competitive games. No one wants/likes to lose, so if some coaches are regarded as better/best, then its almost inevitable more people will use them, to give themselves the best chance of victory.
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Postby DennieFR1908 » Wed, 02 Nov 2011 17:21

You just don't have a choice.. I know I can also beat 90% of the people with my dlouhy setup, but against the best I will probably just run short because they use all the best setups aswell and are also great players.
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Postby Painted Crystal » Wed, 02 Nov 2011 19:15

DarkTunde wrote:@ Painted Crystal: Sorry, but that's just the way it rolls in gaming, sports and life. People will use use the best, most powerful etc thing that gives them the best chance of winning. We might as well ask 'why do people cheat?'

(NOTE: I'm not accusing any Welch, Rabary etc users of cheating! Just pointing out a related issue on the road of desire to victory.)

The lack of variety is a disappointment but really not that surprising. It happens in many competitive games. No one wants/likes to lose, so if some coaches are regarded as better/best, then its almost inevitable more people will use them, to give themselves the best chance of victory.


Tennis is a great sport because is a man with a piece of iron in his hand, no engine, no team and no special clothing. This is the spirit of the court, i'm not so sure everyone has that spirit here but is normal, the answer is the Dennie FR post: too important to win.

When i play a game i don't search the best setup to win, i search the best setup to enjoy infact i play with 70/75 and 75 pow, i know this setup in top players hands can be good but in the hands of many members don't work so good against supersetup. ITST lives of 1000 members (i'm not so sure, sorry Djarvik...) and is a site for tennis lovers, best players are an example for all community, with last mounth threads and with this boring setup trand my choice go to admirate other players like Illuv, Joker, Iboo, Zooloo, Djarv and many others... If you see many of these players write a little in this forum and when write write with intelligence, respect and curiosity for this sport

Intelligence guy=intelligence setup :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Stupid conclusion of my post but i think is not so far from reality

Good luck everyone guy
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Postby Sh0Case » Wed, 02 Nov 2011 19:27

Painted Crystal wrote:Infact Davidou, Joker FR, Jimbooo, Khult, IlluvBillval and Berson are great players and their talent don't need 90-100 stats and I respect very much them (like players) but we're speaking about 5 players, peraphs 8-10 in the first 50 that not use Supercoaches. I'm not good but in my last 10 matches here never I played against a different coaches from the 4 dreamcoaches.
In WT is impossible play against a normal coaches but there are bad players with good coaches and i win. In ITST is impossible, but im a noob and im not a good example of frustration

Welch or Gallo in your or Loki's hands are terrible for every members, for me and other many members are like a walkover :lol:

Repeat, no problem to use coaches i mentioned but I cant see where is the fun when a supersetup is in the hands of a talentuos player against a normal player with normal setup (like me)

If you enjoy so no problem but the real number ones are the players you said. Play with another coach ShoCase, more fun, more satisfaction, more loss (peraphs..)

Rabari for me is not overpowered and TI/MD too

I don't think you understood what I said..
I had never used Any of the 4 OP coaches that you mentioned in a single ITST match until 2 days ago in a match v Loki I picked Welch.
Before and since then, I've used a variety of the others coaches that you have not mentioned. None of which are Rabari either.
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Postby Fifa Tee » Wed, 02 Nov 2011 19:48

Sh0Case destroyed me in the match by the way... He didnt use any of those setups... and he is a beast...
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Postby Gotenkssan » Wed, 02 Nov 2011 20:04

Congratulations to Sh0case. I cant wait to see the record of the game.

Btw: The discussion about setups is really unnecessary in the "Sh0case" thread. I am sure that players like him (or fifa too) could beat 95 percent of all players here on the site with every setup. They play intelligent tennis with perfect timing in almost every situation. I think that they trained for this very hard. This is a level i never can reach, so its ok to lose against that guys.

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Postby Painted Crystal » Wed, 02 Nov 2011 20:28

Sh0Case wrote:
Painted Crystal wrote:Infact Davidou, Joker FR, Jimbooo, Khult, IlluvBillval and Berson are great players and their talent don't need 90-100 stats and I respect very much them (like players) but we're speaking about 5 players, peraphs 8-10 in the first 50 that not use Supercoaches. I'm not good but in my last 10 matches here never I played against a different coaches from the 4 dreamcoaches.
In WT is impossible play against a normal coaches but there are bad players with good coaches and i win. In ITST is impossible, but im a noob and im not a good example of frustration

Welch or Gallo in your or Loki's hands are terrible for every members, for me and other many members are like a walkover :lol:

Repeat, no problem to use coaches i mentioned but I cant see where is the fun when a supersetup is in the hands of a talentuos player against a normal player with normal setup (like me)

If you enjoy so no problem but the real number ones are the players you said. Play with another coach ShoCase, more fun, more satisfaction, more loss (peraphs..)

Rabari for me is not overpowered and TI/MD too

I don't think you understood what I said..
I had never used Any of the 4 OP coaches that you mentioned in a single ITST match until 2 days ago in a match v Loki I picked Welch.
Before and since then, I've used a variety of the others coaches that you have not mentioned. None of which are Rabari either.


My posts are not for a monster like you guy and i don't know you so i dont know what's your work on court, you can win with a all 30 stats player i think.
My considerations are not against noone here and not against every setup or trainer, im only talking about mentality of many members
Sorry if I sound no good in my precedent post, no my intention Sho
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Postby RainingAmoeba79 » Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:50

I can vouch for Sh0case here. I was glad to take a set from him in a SIM match. He is a beast with any setup.
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Postby C4iLL » Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:05

There's a common point between Fifa Sh0case and Loki beyond their setups, their wins etc, what is it ? :lol:
Let's see if someone finds 8)
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Postby djarvik » Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:15

All three suck at TS3? :?
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Postby RainingAmoeba79 » Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:38

djarvik FTW.
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Postby C4iLL » Thu, 03 Nov 2011 00:28

djarvik wrote:All three suck at TS3? :?

Perhaps, but that's not the good answer ! Someone else ? If you find it, you win a Pin's with the Paul-Henry Matthieu face on it.
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Postby LokiSharpShootr » Thu, 03 Nov 2011 01:35

please dont say lagg, im getting tired of people saying i only win cause of lagg... or that i stay 50 feet behing the baseline when i love to attack the net, especially at SIM.
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Postby Rob ITST » Thu, 03 Nov 2011 02:39

Painted Crystal wrote:Tennis is a great sport because is a man with a piece of iron in his hand, no engine, no team and no special clothing. This is the spirit of the court, i'm not so sure everyone has that spirit here but is normal, the answer is the Dennie FR post: too important to win.


If you don't think the pros, or even recreational players, use the equipment that they believe will give them the best chance of winning.... well, they do.

Ask a pro to give up his poly strings or his graphite racquet, and see what he tells you.
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Postby jayl0ve » Thu, 03 Nov 2011 03:55

C4iLL wrote:There's a common point between Fifa Sh0case and Loki beyond their setups, their wins etc, what is it ? :lol:
Let's see if someone finds 8)


Young males.

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