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Postby PerfectAce » Thu, 01 Sep 2011 16:50

I_Zooloo_I wrote:capping some stats at 90 would not destroy variety in the game, would just make it look more realistic


I think there are better ways of balancing the game. Talking about extreme setups, the 90 limit would still be able to produce a player with 90 stats in both wings, 90 stamina and 85 speed (coach Welch). A good players with this setup can EASILY kill a power setup.

So, I´ll put here what I wrote in another thread about some rules that were tested a few months ago:

I still prefer the rule of just one stat by 85 points or more, and allow just 1 wing in the red area. IMO, It would be possible to limit any super setup in a good way.
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Thu, 01 Sep 2011 17:07

PerfectAce wrote:
I_Zooloo_I wrote:capping some stats at 90 would not destroy variety in the game, would just make it look more realistic


I think there are better ways of balancing the game. Talking about extreme setups, the 90 limit would still be able to produce a player with 90 stats in both wings, 90 stamina and 85 speed (coach Welch). A good players with this setup can EASILY kill a power setup.

So, I´ll put here what I wrote in another thread about some rules that were tested a few months ago:

I still prefer the rule of just one stat by 85 points or more, and allow just 1 wing in the red area. IMO, It would be possible to limit any super setup in a good way.
could you submit this idea to the managers and see what they say
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Postby Tuurbine » Thu, 01 Sep 2011 17:08

Lower 80´s in just one wing is MORE than enough, and that is even with low power such as 45 or 50
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Thu, 01 Sep 2011 17:13

Tuurbine wrote:Lower 80´s in just one wing is MORE than enough, and that is even with low power such as 45 or 50
we need to the managers and hosts on board with this idea
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Postby G-Keldorn » Thu, 01 Sep 2011 17:15

I propose that the only thing that should be limited is the power 90, it is the most influential factor
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Thu, 01 Sep 2011 17:18

G-Keldorn wrote:I propose that the only thing that should be limited is the power 90, it is the most influential factor
no the wings need to be capped too look and at welch to wings with 90 that is too much the one red wing idea and 85 max stat is best
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Thu, 01 Sep 2011 17:20

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Rocketsfall wrote:I played a guy on WT the other day who said I was a "cheater" without any further details. I used a sim test s&v character and didn't do anything special while he used a 98 serve and 98 power.
he thinks because you didn't do anything special you cheated he assumes 98 serve and power means easy victories though now you have shown him otherwise


nah the thing is that on the WT, if you don't use the glitch return, 10000 drop shots or use tramline serves.......you're a cheater for all of them.

can this ideas be explored for the regular tour

I still prefer the rule of just one stat by 85 points or more, and allow just 1 wing in the red area. IMO, It would be possible to limit any super setup in a good way.
something needs to be done to finally address the cheesy play and overpowered setup once and for all
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Postby PerfectAce » Thu, 01 Sep 2011 17:25

These ideas are not mine. If i´m not wrong, it came from Djarvik. I believe it can be a good way to keep things balanced in the Regular Tour.
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Thu, 01 Sep 2011 17:28

PerfectAce wrote:These ideas are not mine. If i´m not wrong, it came from Djarvik. I believe it can be a good way to keep things balanced in the Regular Tour.

well we need to ask to explore them further and implement though im sure he is busy setting up the sim tour ,but once that is place hopeful he can put theses ideas into action .
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Postby Tuurbine » Thu, 01 Sep 2011 17:42

For example i think that IR is not overpwered at all, the only problem is that the IR is used with high power. The problem is, you already have the high power, and now to add it up you can have that high power INSTANTLY.... that is the problem.

Anyways, the idea of a good wing and a weak one was put under test in a test tournament, dont remember whic one, so the ADM must have already a good idea of the feedback players had regarding that.
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Thu, 01 Sep 2011 18:00

Tuurbine wrote:For example i think that IR is not overpwered at all, the only problem is that the IR is used with high power. The problem is, you already have the high power, and now to add it up you can have that high power INSTANTLY.... that is the problem.

Anyways, the idea of a good wing and a weak one was put under test in a test tournament, dont remember whic one, so the ADM must have already a good idea of the feedback players had regarding that.
but nothing concrete has been done
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Postby PerfectAce » Thu, 01 Sep 2011 18:03

Tuurbine wrote:For example i think that IR is not overpwered at all, the only problem is that the IR is used with high power. The problem is, you already have the high power, and now to add it up you can have that high power INSTANTLY.... that is the problem.

Anyways, the idea of a good wing and a weak one was put under test in a test tournament, dont remember whic one, so the ADM must have already a good idea of the feedback players had regarding that.


I don´t know if it would change a lot, but I think it would be nice if a red power couldn´t have any red wing.
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Thu, 01 Sep 2011 18:06

PerfectAce wrote:
Tuurbine wrote:For example i think that IR is not overpwered at all, the only problem is that the IR is used with high power. The problem is, you already have the high power, and now to add it up you can have that high power INSTANTLY.... that is the problem.

Anyways, the idea of a good wing and a weak one was put under test in a test tournament, dont remember whic one, so the ADM must have already a good idea of the feedback players had regarding that.


I don´t know if it would change a lot, but I think it would be nice if a red power couldn´t have any red wing.
that could work but power would still have to be limited anyway
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Postby PerfectAce » Thu, 01 Sep 2011 18:18

supinesmokey13 wrote:
PerfectAce wrote:
Tuurbine wrote:For example i think that IR is not overpwered at all, the only problem is that the IR is used with high power. The problem is, you already have the high power, and now to add it up you can have that high power INSTANTLY.... that is the problem.

Anyways, the idea of a good wing and a weak one was put under test in a test tournament, dont remember whic one, so the ADM must have already a good idea of the feedback players had regarding that.


I don´t know if it would change a lot, but I think it would be nice if a red power couldn´t have any red wing.
that could work but power would still have to be limited anyway


With the rule of just one stat with 85 or more, it would be impossible to create a 98 power player.
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Thu, 01 Sep 2011 18:20

PerfectAce wrote:
supinesmokey13 wrote:
PerfectAce wrote:
Tuurbine wrote:For example i think that IR is not overpwered at all, the only problem is that the IR is used with high power. The problem is, you already have the high power, and now to add it up you can have that high power INSTANTLY.... that is the problem.

Anyways, the idea of a good wing and a weak one was put under test in a test tournament, dont remember whic one, so the ADM must have already a good idea of the feedback players had regarding that.


I don´t know if it would change a lot, but I think it would be nice if a red power couldn´t have any red wing.
that could work but power would still have to be limited anyway


With the rule of just one stat with 85 or more, it would be impossible to create a 98 power player.
well lets push for this to happen then
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