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Postby supinesmokey13 » Wed, 31 Aug 2011 00:29

trulyinfemous wrote:
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RainingAmoeba79 wrote:
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djarvik wrote:Emate is right. Bishop is needed and will be introduced.

For now, personally, Fusman with Amazing First Volley is really good at net. 56 is decent. The key is not to do "suicide approaches" but pick your spots.

However an All-arounder that can be successful in "forcing" his way to the net is coming. Likely to have a good volley stat and Approach shot expert.


Exactly what I think. I know that this kind of "forcing to the net" player is coming and it´s necessary. But it seems to me sometimes that people wants to make the volley actually easier then it is nowadays.
im mean you wonder that without a good volley stats a character like fortis wont make a lot of volleys under pressure e,g this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SkkvO2Mawo


If you get perfect timing, yes.....and most of the SIM chars will not be able tohit a running FH like that. Besides, if we made a player like Fed, then he would be overpowered, no? We are not aiming for the regular ATP tour here, with only 3 players who are winning slams. We want all chars to have a shot. So stop comparing us to the ATP tour.
im not comparing the the two tours im just saying it's alot more difficult to hit that shot with a yellow volley and no volley skill.

and regardless of the approach i cant help but feel should someone not necessary hit a fh like tsonga's but dip the ball below the net you mill more than you will make


That is not true No offense, but if you get good timing you can make it.
i dont doubt the shot can be made but how man times out of ten would you say it can be made


Do you think thats a volley that can be made more than once every 10 attempts?
Roger Federer is a rare player to be able to make shots like that, let alone hit them consistently.

If you want to hit ridiculously amazing volleys and shots like this on a regular basis stick to the standard tour because you're missing what the Sim tour is all about.
look i didnt want hit amazing shot after shot cos that isn't sim.

i just thought i couldn't hit great volley's without a volley skill and a volley stat below 66 but having played lendl on expert i have changed my mind as i was able to come up with some great volleys with 60 stat. i think the fortis setup will be my favourite for now then sobchak
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Postby evilcaterpillar » Wed, 31 Aug 2011 00:35

Hi,
Since I found this site was excited by the SIM tour, i sucked at WT 'cos all that overpowered players, still i managed to win some games.
Let's play SIM!!!
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Postby trulyinfemous » Wed, 31 Aug 2011 02:03

supinesmokey13 wrote:
trulyinfemous wrote:
supinesmokey13 wrote:
RainingAmoeba79 wrote:
supinesmokey13 wrote:
RainingAmoeba79 wrote:
supinesmokey13 wrote:
PerfectAce wrote:
djarvik wrote:Emate is right. Bishop is needed and will be introduced.

For now, personally, Fusman with Amazing First Volley is really good at net. 56 is decent. The key is not to do "suicide approaches" but pick your spots.

However an All-arounder that can be successful in "forcing" his way to the net is coming. Likely to have a good volley stat and Approach shot expert.


Exactly what I think. I know that this kind of "forcing to the net" player is coming and it´s necessary. But it seems to me sometimes that people wants to make the volley actually easier then it is nowadays.
im mean you wonder that without a good volley stats a character like fortis wont make a lot of volleys under pressure e,g this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SkkvO2Mawo


If you get perfect timing, yes.....and most of the SIM chars will not be able tohit a running FH like that. Besides, if we made a player like Fed, then he would be overpowered, no? We are not aiming for the regular ATP tour here, with only 3 players who are winning slams. We want all chars to have a shot. So stop comparing us to the ATP tour.
im not comparing the the two tours im just saying it's alot more difficult to hit that shot with a yellow volley and no volley skill.

and regardless of the approach i cant help but feel should someone not necessary hit a fh like tsonga's but dip the ball below the net you mill more than you will make


That is not true No offense, but if you get good timing you can make it.
i dont doubt the shot can be made but how man times out of ten would you say it can be made


Do you think thats a volley that can be made more than once every 10 attempts?
Roger Federer is a rare player to be able to make shots like that, let alone hit them consistently.

If you want to hit ridiculously amazing volleys and shots like this on a regular basis stick to the standard tour because you're missing what the Sim tour is all about.
look i didnt want hit amazing shot after shot cos that isn't sim.

i just thought i couldn't hit great volley's without a volley skill and a volley stat below 66 but having played lendl on expert i have changed my mind as i was able to come up with some great volleys with 60 stat. i think the fortis setup will be my favourite for now then sobchak


Thats alright then...

Little secret, I've always been a heavy volleyer, but never actually had a rating above 60. It doesn't matter much... reflexes is more important.
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Wed, 31 Aug 2011 02:16

trulyinfemous wrote:
supinesmokey13 wrote:
trulyinfemous wrote:
supinesmokey13 wrote:
RainingAmoeba79 wrote:
supinesmokey13 wrote:
RainingAmoeba79 wrote:
supinesmokey13 wrote:
PerfectAce wrote:
djarvik wrote:Emate is right. Bishop is needed and will be introduced.

For now, personally, Fusman with Amazing First Volley is really good at net. 56 is decent. The key is not to do "suicide approaches" but pick your spots.

However an All-arounder that can be successful in "forcing" his way to the net is coming. Likely to have a good volley stat and Approach shot expert.


Exactly what I think. I know that this kind of "forcing to the net" player is coming and it´s necessary. But it seems to me sometimes that people wants to make the volley actually easier then it is nowadays.
im mean you wonder that without a good volley stats a character like fortis wont make a lot of volleys under pressure e,g this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SkkvO2Mawo


If you get perfect timing, yes.....and most of the SIM chars will not be able tohit a running FH like that. Besides, if we made a player like Fed, then he would be overpowered, no? We are not aiming for the regular ATP tour here, with only 3 players who are winning slams. We want all chars to have a shot. So stop comparing us to the ATP tour.
im not comparing the the two tours im just saying it's alot more difficult to hit that shot with a yellow volley and no volley skill.

and regardless of the approach i cant help but feel should someone not necessary hit a fh like tsonga's but dip the ball below the net you mill more than you will make


That is not true No offense, but if you get good timing you can make it.
i dont doubt the shot can be made but how man times out of ten would you say it can be made


Do you think thats a volley that can be made more than once every 10 attempts?
Roger Federer is a rare player to be able to make shots like that, let alone hit them consistently.

If you want to hit ridiculously amazing volleys and shots like this on a regular basis stick to the standard tour because you're missing what the Sim tour is all about.
look i didnt want hit amazing shot after shot cos that isn't sim.

i just thought i couldn't hit great volley's without a volley skill and a volley stat below 66 but having played lendl on expert i have changed my mind as i was able to come up with some great volleys with 60 stat. i think the fortis setup will be my favourite for now then sobchak


Thats alright then...

Little secret, I've always been a heavy volleyer, but never actually had a rating above 60. It doesn't matter much... reflexes is more important.
it should against somebody good
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Postby PerfectAce » Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:47

A good practice is to force volley game with low stat in this skill, something less than 50. If you get good on that, you will realize that anythig higher than 50 can be very usefull.

Not saying that anyone will be a volley master with this stats, but I´m sure it´s possible to put some very good volleys if the guy has a good to excelent timing.
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Postby RainingAmoeba79 » Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:08

One thing I did is use a new player, and try to lay with that. Due to the smaller timing windows, my timing gets better.
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Postby esorcista » Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:24

I don't understand what does it mean this rule:

- SIM-Cheese includes 0-power serves and FH power slices and may expand

Can you please explain it? Thanks!
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Postby RainingAmoeba79 » Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:34

esorcista wrote:I don't understand what does it mean this rule:

- SIM-Cheese includes 0-power serves and FH power slices and may expand

Can you please explain it? Thanks!


No problem! This means that in the SIM tour, you are not allowed to serve by tapping the button (zero power serve). You can only use the power serve (hold button and release when ball is at its peak) or the advanced serve (with the stick). Also, you are not allowed to use a powered up slice on the forehand side, the backhand is fine.
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Postby Indiantonike » Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:47

RainingAmoeba79 wrote:
esorcista wrote:I don't understand what does it mean this rule:

- SIM-Cheese includes 0-power serves and FH power slices and may expand

Can you please explain it? Thanks!


No problem! This means that in the SIM tour, you are not allowed to serve by tapping the button (zero power serve). You can only use the power serve (hold button and release when ball is at its peak) or the advanced serve (with the stick). Also, you are not allowed to use a powered up slice on the forehand side, the backhand is fine.


Can I use a backhand lob ?

Seriously, be ready to have a lot of complaints.
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Postby VillaJ100 » Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:50

Indiantonike wrote:
RainingAmoeba79 wrote:
esorcista wrote:I don't understand what does it mean this rule:

- SIM-Cheese includes 0-power serves and FH power slices and may expand

Can you please explain it? Thanks!


No problem! This means that in the SIM tour, you are not allowed to serve by tapping the button (zero power serve). You can only use the power serve (hold button and release when ball is at its peak) or the advanced serve (with the stick). Also, you are not allowed to use a powered up slice on the forehand side, the backhand is fine.


Can I use a backhand lob ?

Seriously, be ready to have a lot of complaints.


If you mean complaints from players for too many rules, then i don't think so as players know what they are signing up for. SIM is pretty strict and isn't for everyone, which is fine as others can play on the regular tour.
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Postby Indiantonike » Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:54

VillaJ100 wrote:
Indiantonike wrote:
RainingAmoeba79 wrote:
esorcista wrote:I don't understand what does it mean this rule:

- SIM-Cheese includes 0-power serves and FH power slices and may expand

Can you please explain it? Thanks!


No problem! This means that in the SIM tour, you are not allowed to serve by tapping the button (zero power serve). You can only use the power serve (hold button and release when ball is at its peak) or the advanced serve (with the stick). Also, you are not allowed to use a powered up slice on the forehand side, the backhand is fine.


Can I use a backhand lob ?

Seriously, be ready to have a lot of complaints.


If you mean complaints from players for too many rules, then i don't think so as players know what they are signing up for. SIM is pretty strict and isn't for everyone, which is fine as others can play on the regular tour.


I just meant that a lot of players pre-pressed button, so I think it will often happen that players use FH slice by mistake. And I know that I'll use them (by mistake), especially when defending :?
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Postby djarvik » Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:14

I am kinda annoyed by your signature and demeanor. You need stop. Play the tour you like and that's it.
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Postby Indiantonike » Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:17

It's just an ironic joke, nothing against you or SIM tour :wink:
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Postby Tuurbine » Wed, 31 Aug 2011 23:14

@Djarvik

How are the starting seedings going to be made? Based on the regular tour actual rankings?
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Postby RainingAmoeba79 » Thu, 01 Sep 2011 00:31

Tuurbine wrote:@Djarvik

How are the starting seedings going to be made? Based on the regular tour actual rankings?


That is what I was thinking. I think that in the warm up tourneys maybe they should be based on regular tour rankings, but SIM tour is supposed to be seperated from regular tour. I think the warm ups may ave regular tour seedings, but the actual SIM tournies will have it based on SIM results only.
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