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Postby trulyinfemous » Tue, 30 Aug 2011 17:46

I'd be able to agree with capping things at 90.

You don't see many players 2k created with above 90 in anything...
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Postby LokiSharpShootr » Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:06

Yeah, it would be a pretty good ideia to limit stats to 90.

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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:42

Big problem is that we will not be able to indulge such players in long rallies bcz big service and next shot he will hit a winner even if we manage to return his serve.. Stats like power and service should get limited to 92 or 90...
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Postby Pyrros-Dimas_85 » Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:40

LokiSharpShootr wrote:Yeah, it would be a pretty good ideia to limit stats to 90.

Hosts whats your position on this?

no,i disappointed:if someone prefer the power and the service as "ivan karlovic or or roddick" its ok because he have a limit in other ability.
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Postby farshad » Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:46

Pyrros-Dimas_85 wrote:
LokiSharpShootr wrote:Yeah, it would be a pretty good ideia to limit stats to 90.

Hosts whats your position on this?

no,i disappointed:if someone prefer the power and the service as "ivan karlovic or or roddick" its ok because he have a limit in other ability.

Not really!! Speed that is NOTHING, even with 40 , you can chase most of balls.
Stamina?! nothing , it will be at 0 forever but the player still hit high power with great timing.
Vol?! almost no one use it...
so whats the limit?
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Postby LokiSharpShootr » Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:51

Yeah thank GOD the SIM setup arrived where the better player will win not the better coach.
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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:52

Yea stamina speed and reflexes doesn't matter much in top spin 4
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Postby Pyrros-Dimas_85 » Wed, 31 Aug 2011 05:05

farshad wrote:
Pyrros-Dimas_85 wrote:
LokiSharpShootr wrote:Yeah, it would be a pretty good ideia to limit stats to 90.

Hosts whats your position on this?

no,i disappointed:if someone prefer the power and the service as "ivan karlovic or or roddick" its ok because he have a limit in other ability.

Not really!! Speed that is NOTHING, even with 40 , you can chase most of balls.
Stamina?! nothing , it will be at 0 forever but the player still hit high power with great timing.
Vol?! almost no one use it...
so whats the limit?

sure their service is amazing and you have reason about a speed but the stamina are not illimited,and their shoot are not perfect,so for me is not problem imho(then if some one its good its good........poche balle).
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Postby jayl0ve » Wed, 31 Aug 2011 05:10

I find stamina to have a pretty big effect, maybe that's because I only play 2K Open with the pros. But trust me it affects the pros a lot.

It affects how well you change direction, how quickly you run, and how large the timing window is for shots.

I guess if you are using some cheez 100 power setup then it doesn't really matter how well you time the ball :lol:
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Postby edlglide » Wed, 31 Aug 2011 07:44

Ali-Iqb93 wrote:Yea stamina speed and reflexes doesn't matter much in top spin 4


I think people overlook reflexes -- they're a huge help at the net obviously, but that doesn't matter if you aren't planning to go up there.

In my experience, though, having high reflexes really helps you hit returns. I hit far more return winners with my guy who has 59 power and 71 reflexes than I do with a guy who has 80+ power and like 50 reflexes. And I don't have that much trouble hitting returns even against the 98 serve/98 power guys.

Of course, they can still murder a winner with 98 power if they have even a miniscule opening.
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Postby KDZaster » Fri, 02 Sep 2011 21:06

How is 98 Power and serve unrealistic?

That sounds like Juan Del Potro, like John Isner, like Fernando Verdaso, like Milos Raonic, like Andy Roddick, who all hit 130-150 serves regularly (some more than others) and have a super-strong forehand that have clocked 90mph or above more than once?

It's unrealistic?
Because it's hard to return, like in real life?
Because it's hard to deal with, like in real life?

They already made it so serving vs returning is nowhere near IRL, since returning is so freakin easy and no one misses any returns they make contact with 99% of the time (which is the most unrealistic thing in this game, you cant bring back a 140+mph serve every. single. time you touch it).

People still complain when a well placed 120+ mph serve no long has ANY possibility of being a consistant Ace in this game. When you can press left, and then right against a serve thats 130+ and still reach it, while in "real life", if you choose left and the ball goes right and is going that fast, you've missed it.
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Postby safe_as_milk_ » Fri, 02 Sep 2011 22:27

edlglide wrote:
Ali-Iqb93 wrote:Yea stamina speed and reflexes doesn't matter much in top spin 4


I think people overlook reflexes -- they're a huge help at the net obviously, but that doesn't matter if you aren't planning to go up there.

In my experience, though, having high reflexes really helps you hit returns. I hit far more return winners with my guy who has 59 power and 71 reflexes than I do with a guy who has 80+ power and like 50 reflexes. And I don't have that much trouble hitting returns even against the 98 serve/98 power guys.

Of course, they can still murder a winner with 98 power if they have even a miniscule opening.


I agree, I think reflexes are massively underrated, not just for volleying... I'm quite surprised they rarely get a mention to be honest.

I don't mind people using 98 power etc even though I usually find matches against these types of players pretty boring. What I do mind is people taking the piss with these stats in conjunction with Serve Stick Berserker/Focus service by tramline serving.
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Postby Tamthewasp » Fri, 02 Sep 2011 22:39

Worsw when thwy zps or very slow serve wirh 98 serve 98 power and then call it Fair tactics, rhats a **** JOKE
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Fri, 02 Sep 2011 22:39

KDZaster wrote:How is 98 Power and serve unrealistic?

That sounds like Juan Del Potro, like John Isner, like Fernando Verdaso, like Milos Raonic, like Andy Roddick, who all hit 130-150 serves regularly (some more than others) and have a super-strong forehand that have clocked 90mph or above more than once?

It's unrealistic?
Because it's hard to return, like in real life?
Because it's hard to deal with, like in real life?

They already made it so serving vs returning is nowhere near IRL, since returning is so freakin easy and no one misses any returns they make contact with 99% of the time (which is the most unrealistic thing in this game, you cant bring back a 140+mph serve every. single. time you touch it).

People still complain when a well placed 120+ mph serve no long has ANY possibility of being a consistant Ace in this game. When you can press left, and then right against a serve thats 130+ and still reach it, while in "real life", if you choose left and the ball goes right and is going that fast, you've missed it.

roddick doesn't hit fh that anymore or often . and NOT ON EVERY SINGLE POINT LIKE YOU GUYS DO IF THEY DID THEY WOULD TEAR THE ARMS OFF COMPLETELY.

yes they can hit big fh but not every point so your point is wrong your just trying to just your abuse of the flaws in the game and personally i think you and everyone else who wishes to play this way should stick to the world tour and be banned from itst
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Fri, 02 Sep 2011 22:41

KDZaster wrote:How is 98 Power and serve unrealistic?

That sounds like Juan Del Potro, like John Isner, like Fernando Verdaso, like Milos Raonic, like Andy Roddick, who all hit 130-150 serves regularly (some more than others) and have a super-strong forehand that have clocked 90mph or above more than once?

It's unrealistic?
Because it's hard to return, like in real life?
Because it's hard to deal with, like in real life?

They already made it so serving vs returning is nowhere near IRL, since returning is so freakin easy and no one misses any returns they make contact with 99% of the time (which is the most unrealistic thing in this game, you cant bring back a 140+mph serve every. single. time you touch it).

People still complain when a well placed 120+ mph serve no long has ANY possibility of being a consistant Ace in this game. When you can press left, and then right against a serve thats 130+ and still reach it, while in "real life", if you choose left and the ball goes right and is going that fast, you've missed it.
oh if it is so hard to deal with IN REAL LIFE why isn't delpo, raonic or verdasco in side the top ten
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