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Postby Likos86321 » Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:54

Another question to djarvik: I remember in ts3 the forehand and backhand were interchangeable. Now in ts4 there are not. Why?

I'm asking this because some people(like me :lol:) want to have their forehand instead of backhand(or vice versa) as a strong wing.
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Postby djarvik » Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:56

Problem is, that some coaches give uneven bonuses to strokes, making interchangeable strokes impossible.
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Postby farshad » Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:01

djarvik wrote:
farshad wrote:First of all, i wanted to thank ITST for bringing the SIM Tour. thanks guys for all the time and energy you've spent .
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about the players, im afraid i can't find a decent all arounder. maybe cause its new and im not used to it but i think there is no a good all arounder like Fed stats or atleast somewhere around it. i mean im not worried anymore for power or backhand low stats cause in sim tour, my opponent will have his problems with low stats too,which is great , but the problem is the entertaining part, if all your shots land in middle of the court or they are weak or your stamina finish in a few games, it wont be fun...but im gonna wait and play the sim to see how it goes exactly.


We have more players on the way, we will slowly add more. There will be a few more all arounders. If I know what exactly are you looking for (stat areas) we can see if this is feasible to integrate into a current roster. If you looking for a Feeder type, then look at Fortis. He is very close to him, with a little less power.

The idea is to have a balanced roster, the exact replica of Federer setup is not going to be exactly balanced, don't you agree? ;) The guy is just too good.

Yeah Fortis was the first player that took my atention but 58 to 79 :lol: difference of power is a bit huge. but yeah that will be my pick for now .
Well...as you know better than me, all arounder is a very weak setup on this game , i mean even if you have a great all arounder ( with everyting on between 70-80 ) you still can't win against a great baseliner. so i dont know if its gonna be bad for sim or not but i think a player like :
Fore: 80-85
Back: 55-60
Srv: 55-65
Vol: 55-60
Pow: 70-75
Sta:65-75
Spe: 50-60
Ref:55-65
I think something like that would be great ,if possible.
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Postby djarvik » Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:11

Well, 79 to 100 total in power right?

In SIM you have 58 to 79.

See the pattern? :wink:


I think you underestimate all arounders. Especially so in SIM. The reason they were less competitive in regular tour is because of OBs with high power AND high strokes. Take a look at OBs in SIM now.

To me, All around is the more then competitive and Fortis is a force to be recon with. You will see that player win a lot of titles.

The proposed setup by you is basically a Fortis setup that is more powerful. Take a look at Lopez, he has 68 power and 77 forehand. Another close setup to what you looking for.

I stand by my statement, do not look at stats alone, you have to look at them in the context of the SIM roster. For example a BH of 54 is a solid wing. Why? ...because most players have less then that.

54 is not low at all. It may seem low when playing against a guy with both wings well above 70-75.... but when playing a match with opponent who has a similar stat it becomes effective. Granted, it will not generate many winners, but it is a solid shot that can have a great angle and depth.
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Postby LokiSharpShootr » Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:18

Djarvik dont you think people will just focus on Fortis, Nakamura an Shoback and kinda forget about the other ones???

Cause those are kinda the top setups(in my opinion).
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Postby RainingAmoeba79 » Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:28

I think BASH in the right hands could be awesome.
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Postby reconskillsxx » Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:30

I dont think there is any Top setups. Its all down to what you prefer. Nakamura only looks good on paper but when you use you will see how he really is.
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Postby djarvik » Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:32

Not at all. Sure, some setups will be more popular, but all will be used. Just from experience.

Personally, my first pick is Rogers, followed by Fusman and I love Jensen. I think I serve rather well, so holding serve with him is a breeze.

We need to get it some times. I still think that Cannon can be THE best player out there in right hands.

Basically, too early to tell. :wink: ...but as I mentioned, the intent is to keep the roster balanced and usable, so will adjust if there is a need.

Just a reminder, you will have to pick a SIM player when entering a tournament and it will be shown in the draw, so we will be able to see exactly how many of each player is used. Why am I saying it? ...because each player has another in the roster that can beat him rather easy (considering similar skill of the opponent). This was the goal of the SIM Roster. So for example if in one tournament, you see a lot of Sobchack and him winning the title, I can grantee you, the next tournament will be full of Thompsons and Rogers. Eventually it will balance out.
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Sun, 28 Aug 2011 19:49

djarvik wrote:Not at all. Sure, some setups will be more popular, but all will be used. Just from experience.

Personally, my first pick is Rogers, followed by Fusman and I love Jensen. I think I serve rather well, so holding serve with him is a breeze.

We need to get it some times. I still think that Cannon can be THE best player out there in right hands.

Basically, too early to tell. :wink: ...but as I mentioned, the intent is to keep the roster balanced and usable, so will adjust if there is a need.

Just a reminder, you will have to pick a SIM player when entering a tournament and it will be shown in the draw, so we will be able to see exactly how many of each player is used. Why am I saying it? ...because each player has another in the roster that can beat him rather easy (considering similar skill of the opponent). This was the goal of the SIM Roster. So for example if in one tournament, you see a lot of Sobchack and him winning the title, I can grantee you, the next tournament will be full of Thompsons and Rogers. Eventually it will balance out.
was the fortis setup inspired by the alex bickham setup as there many similarities in the setups and as such is there any chance of the alex bickham setup making the the roster
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Postby LokiSharpShootr » Sun, 28 Aug 2011 20:17

In my experience in the WT people that use bickman do 1000 dropvolley a game and 500 dropshots.
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Postby Moralspain » Sun, 28 Aug 2011 20:35

LokiSharpShootr wrote:In my experience in the WT people that use bickman do 1000 dropvolley a game and 500 dropshots.


i've got a word to describe those players

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Postby supinesmokey13 » Sun, 28 Aug 2011 23:36

LokiSharpShootr wrote:In my experience in the WT people that use bickman do 1000 dropvolley a game and 500 dropshots.
i use the setup but it dont need to abuse the setup i mean you could give 76/71 fh / bh
or 86/ 61 fh/bh or 81/66 fh/bh and you would have some good wings to do sum damage against opponent. people are just always looking for an easy play to win points and ultimately the match sleepy also uses the setup too and he doest abuse the shot. that is just the WT i.e win by all means
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Sun, 28 Aug 2011 23:39

RainingAmoeba79 wrote:Exactly. we need Fed toned down. That said, I want to see an all rounder with more volley.
i agree cant bickham make the roster ?
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Postby RainingAmoeba79 » Mon, 29 Aug 2011 01:16

supinesmokey13 wrote:
RainingAmoeba79 wrote:Exactly. we need Fed toned down. That said, I want to see an all rounder with more volley.
i agree cant bickham make the roster ?


Beause he is a gold coach, which we try to stay away from, and we do not want DSA on the SIM tour. When we were testing, some abilities, such as instant rocket, drop shot artist, ts/slice invasion, MD, were automatically removed because we believed it was un SIM.
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Postby LokiSharpShootr » Mon, 29 Aug 2011 02:01

Beause he is a gold coach, which we try to stay away from, and we do not want DSA on the SIM tour. When we were testing, some abilities, such as instant rocket, drop shot artist, ts/slice invasion, MD, were automatically removed because we believed it was un SIM.


And i applaud you guys on that.
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