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Postby varun_k2 » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 01:02

I played a 3 set match for about an hour, i couldn't break my opponent because every time he came to the net, he played a drop volley against me. it was impossible for me to beat him at the net. it seemed quite unfair to me, could someone tell me if that's considered to be cheesy or not, and if not what am i supposed to do?!
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Postby Rob ITST » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 01:38

Report it to the host please.
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Postby varun_k2 » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 01:47

ok thanks
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Postby freshpoulp2010 » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 13:01

I see which kind of player you're talking about. IMPOSSIBLE to win and for me, it's true & pure Chessy (and not tennis!!)
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Postby chillachriz » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 13:42

Rob ITST wrote:Report it to the host please.


lol!!

yeah report him... but you have the lost and the points are away... and the cheesy player is in the next round :D

resporting a player is meaningless here... ok he get filed... but you lost your points and the game.... its a waste of time here ;)

there are more and more players... you'll meet in every tournament at least one of thecheesy players ... and how many people take the fun out of the game just to win is not just embarrassing ... do not waste your time here ... because it brings you nothing... and you will lose the fun of the game ;)


everyone here makes what he wants... so play like a asshole or leave this league... choose your choice ;)
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Postby Rob ITST » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:05

Chillachriz, you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Postby chillachriz » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:35

Rob ITST wrote:Chillachriz, you have no idea what you're talking about.


from you i would not expect another rate rob ;)

but you have to know better what i was experiencing here in recent times ... of course!


please do not take this too personally ;)
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Postby djarvik » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:39

Not sure what you mean by this, so before I retaliate: Are you somehow implying that you "could" expect "it" from me or something?
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Postby Moralspain » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 16:14

chillachriz wrote:resporting a player is meaningless here... ok he get filed... but you lost your points and the game.... its a waste of time here ;)


They need those complaints to either inform or warm people who play against the rules, there's no other way.

You can not expect from the management to ban people with just one complaint, there's a process, like in real life every one has the right to have fair trial.

Trust me they work hard to make people understand what the rules are after every complaint they get from an ITST.

Only when after inform/warm a "cheesy" guy, he continues doing things wrong is when you can either suspend him or ban, never before. Ban someone is a tough decision.

btw, please more respect to Rob and Djarvik, these guys along others hosts and managers do their best to make all this work as best as possible.
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Postby chillachriz » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 19:08

Moralspain wrote:
chillachriz wrote:resporting a player is meaningless here... ok he get filed... but you lost your points and the game.... its a waste of time here ;)


They need those complaints to either inform or warm people who play against the rules, there's no other way.

You can not expect from the management to ban people with just one complaint, there's a process, like in real life every one has the right to have fair trial.

Trust me they work hard to make people understand what the rules are after every complaint they get from an ITST.

Only when after inform/warm a "cheesy" guy, he continues doing things wrong is when you can either suspend him or ban, never before. Ban someone is a tough decision.

btw, please more respect to Rob and Djarvik, these guys along others hosts and managers do their best to make all this work as best as possible.


what you talking about respect?


I might say some things directly .. but I've offended anyone or anything ... So please stop asking for more respect for others ... I appreciate your work very much and I have never claimed that we should ban players immediately after a warning ... but i think its not fair when the fair player got nothing and the cheesy player get in the next round...

I think it's just not the right to get ahead "cheesy players" and still be rewarded for it! the fair player is the stupid here ... and please dont tell me anything else ...

I have very recently rushed from work to come home ... because one other players waiting on me ... after a total of 14 hours of work I get home and have to play against a player who is too stupid to play a game fair! After some time I have is just too stupid ... one stop ... I try to play the ball back somehow and then I can not move to 90% ... So I ask myself what I have lost here...my opponent "freezing" my player...again and again... he dont stop because its easy to make the point when you opponent cant move ;) So I'm gone ... sorry... but i have better things to do... my time is too precious to waste it with cheesy players ;)


right after I said to my opponents that I contact the host ... I've also done ... Unfortunately, my opponent has simply entered the wrong results ... what I said right after the host ... There was nothing done about it ... not against the "cheesy playing" and nothing against the wrong result!!so im the idiot and my unfair opponent who reported a wrong result after cheesy playing get in the next round! what i should say to him? well done? congratulations? what you expect?

please not take this too personally ... I have no problem with anyone of you ... But it can not be the fair is always the stupid ... ok maybe get the "cheesy player" a warning ... but he is in the next round ... and if that makes the round then, good night ... I hope you understand what I mean ... and I mean it really not bad
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Postby Moralspain » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 19:23

ok, got it, maybe i overreacted , let's move on
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Postby chillachriz » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 22:02

Moralspain wrote:ok, got it, maybe i overreacted , let's move on



I am not getting your opinion ... and with one or the other rule I have problems ... But I stand by them ... and that I expect from my opponent ... But this time my opponent has broken all the rules ... and there was nothing done about it ... this is also the reason why I will not play anymore ... because it just does not make sense

I think that's a shame ... because you can actually play against the best players ... But everything comes to an end ...
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Postby djarvik » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 22:14

OK, as I have told you, you were THE FIRST to complain about that player. And yet you want me to so something about it? Ban him? Suspend him? Make him reply a match based on your word alone?....with no prior complaints?

What if tomorrow someone complaints about you? I should ban you too?

You honestly don't understand that concept? ...or you just really angry and REFUSE to understand that?

Personally, I have never played you or your opponent, so I have to judge this from sidelines. What you asking is for me to pick a side only based on one complaint, your complaint. As long as I am in ITST management - this will NEVER happened.

No one is denying that you were not cheated, but you have to understand that we simply cannot operate on "one complaint" basis, unless you have solid proof, Video perhaps.

If you don't understand why - then I am extreemly sorry, but I cannot help you.
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Postby chillachriz » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 22:42

djarvik wrote:
What if tomorrow someone complaints about you? I should ban you too?



when i deserve it... YES!!!! I HOPE YOU DO IT!!!!

I understand your point already ... it's my word against his word ... you can not know what really happened ... but in my view it is just like that! I did not lie to myself and not lying to you ... this is a game .. I know I'm not the best ... for example i have lost 6-0 6-0 vs godzin ... and I said no word ... because he just plays world-class tennis ...

In your opinion is just my word against his ... pity I have not taken it ... then at least you had seen what I mean and would have believed me ... I have no reason to lie here ... for a ps3 game ... I have other real problems;)


belive me or not... but im not leaving without a reason ;)

@djarvik: OK, as I have told you, you were THE FIRST to complain about that player. And yet you want me to so something about it? Ban him? Suspend him? Make him reply a match based on your word alone?....with no prior complaints?


nono its ok... I do not want to play against him again ...after i told him "please play fair" he play 3 games in a row without one stop ... I've won all 3 games... without a problem ... then he immediately started again his "mortal kombat freezing style" so I know who's the better one when he is not playing unfair ...

But again I think it's not ok if this player is then a round further and gets the points ... because he has not deserve ... and if you believe me and think I lie about a game then I have no desire to play more here ... and it will be followed by many others ...

ohh and im sure when my opponent play versus a host im to 100% sure he will play fair... ;)
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Postby djarvik » Tue, 16 Aug 2011 22:49

chillachriz wrote:
djarvik wrote:
What if tomorrow someone complaints about you? I should ban you too?



when i deserve it... YES!!!! I HOPE YOU DO IT!!!!


What if he says you do deserve it? Should I do it? Should I take his word for it?
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