All-Around Club (AAC)

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Postby RainingAmoeba79 » Tue, 12 Jul 2011 04:01

IO catually like playing against those people. Most of the time, if you mix up pace, spin and depth, they can make an error.
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Postby PerfectAce » Mon, 25 Jul 2011 16:03

I have a suggestion/question here. Wouldn´t be easier to consider an allrounder a player that has at least yellow collor in all his stats? This would open to a great variety of allrounders, and would be more realistic, IMO.

I´d like to hear some noise. This place this too silent lately... :)
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Mon, 25 Jul 2011 16:21

PerfectAce wrote:I have a suggestion/question here. Wouldn´t be easier to consider an allrounder a player that has at least yellow collor in all his stats? This would open to a great variety of allrounders, and would be more realistic, IMO.

I´d like to hear some noise. This place this too silent lately... :)
no not reallya real all rounders are comfortable in all areas in the court e.g although djokovic has improved his volleys the short slice or drop shot to bring him forward is still very effective but not so against his fellow serb tipsaravic, or fed, or nalby. with a yellow volley stat below 65 and no volley shot artist you can only attack the net on your terms.
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Postby PerfectAce » Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:42

supinesmokey13 wrote:
PerfectAce wrote:I have a suggestion/question here. Wouldn´t be easier to consider an allrounder a player that has at least yellow collor in all his stats? This would open to a great variety of allrounders, and would be more realistic, IMO.

I´d like to hear some noise. This place this too silent lately... :)
no not reallya real all rounders are comfortable in all areas in the court e.g although djokovic has improved his volleys the short slice or drop shot to bring him forward is still very effective but not so against his fellow serb tipsaravic, or fed, or nalby. with a yellow volley stat below 65 and no volley shot artist you can only attack the net on your terms.


I don´t agree. Allrounder is a player that can play well in every situation. But people in this club discuss allrounders a lot focused in S&V.

Following what you said, you can have lots of low stats S&V with this club´s stats rule. For example, a setup 8/6/6 with Damian Salazar ot Farah Lum, you´ll have just 55 in volley without a volley atribute.

If you take Federer, for example, he´s an allrouder with the best FH of the game and with a lot of power (79). Is shows that, even being the king of this club, he has a major weapon (that is not volley), something very difficult to create because of the rules.

This suggestion is just to bring more life to the club. Indeed, I believe that an allrounder is more related the way you play the game, and not just because of the stats. I have a 6/14/0 player with Liseth Aguilar, that is really an allrounder, IMO. Simulate this stats in the calculator and tell me if this player dosen´t look like a member from this club.
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:21

PerfectAce wrote:
supinesmokey13 wrote:
PerfectAce wrote:I have a suggestion/question here. Wouldn´t be easier to consider an allrounder a player that has at least yellow collor in all his stats? This would open to a great variety of allrounders, and would be more realistic, IMO.

I´d like to hear some noise. This place this too silent lately... :)
no not reallya real all rounders are comfortable in all areas in the court e.g although djokovic has improved his volleys the short slice or drop shot to bring him forward is still very effective but not so against his fellow serb tipsaravic, or fed, or nalby. with a yellow volley stat below 65 and no volley shot artist you can only attack the net on your terms.


I don´t agree. Allrounder is a player that can play well in every situation. But people in this club discuss allrounders a lot focused in S&V.

Following what you said, you can have lots of low stats S&V with this club´s stats rule. For example, a setup 8/6/6 with Damian Salazar ot Farah Lum, you´ll have just 55 in volley without a volley atribute.

If you take Federer, for example, he´s an allrouder with the best FH of the game and with a lot of power (79). Is shows that, even being the king of this club, he has a major weapon (that is not volley), something very difficult to create because of the rules.

This suggestion is just to bring more life to the club. Indeed, I believe that an allrounder is more related the way you play the game, and not just because of the stats. I have a 6/14/0 player with Liseth Aguilar, that is really an allrounder, IMO. Simulate this stats in the calculator and tell me if this player dosen´t look like a member from this club.

yea i see your point but with with 55 volley you can only come in so many times especially without a volley skill. so your restricted to how often you come to net but take alex bickham 7/6/7 you can play at the baseline and attack net as often you want .because you have orange volley and volley skill.

so even an offensive baseliner with low volley could play as an all rounder with 55 volley would by hitting a good approach and knocking off the easy volley but as with the 55 volley they cant hit good volleys under pressure . so in essence you play 99% from the baseline as you can only hit put-away volley as if you cant hit great volleys under pressure.
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Postby PerfectAce » Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:21

supinesmokey13 wrote:
PerfectAce wrote:
supinesmokey13 wrote:
PerfectAce wrote:I have a suggestion/question here. Wouldn´t be easier to consider an allrounder a player that has at least yellow collor in all his stats? This would open to a great variety of allrounders, and would be more realistic, IMO.

I´d like to hear some noise. This place this too silent lately... :)
no not reallya real all rounders are comfortable in all areas in the court e.g although djokovic has improved his volleys the short slice or drop shot to bring him forward is still very effective but not so against his fellow serb tipsaravic, or fed, or nalby. with a yellow volley stat below 65 and no volley shot artist you can only attack the net on your terms.


I don´t agree. Allrounder is a player that can play well in every situation. But people in this club discuss allrounders a lot focused in S&V.

Following what you said, you can have lots of low stats S&V with this club´s stats rule. For example, a setup 8/6/6 with Damian Salazar ot Farah Lum, you´ll have just 55 in volley without a volley atribute.

If you take Federer, for example, he´s an allrouder with the best FH of the game and with a lot of power (79). Is shows that, even being the king of this club, he has a major weapon (that is not volley), something very difficult to create because of the rules.

This suggestion is just to bring more life to the club. Indeed, I believe that an allrounder is more related the way you play the game, and not just because of the stats. I have a 6/14/0 player with Liseth Aguilar, that is really an allrounder, IMO. Simulate this stats in the calculator and tell me if this player dosen´t look like a member from this club.

yea i see your point but with with 55 volley you can only come in so many times especially without a volley skill. so your restricted to how often you come to net but take alex bickham 7/6/7 you can play at the baseline and attack net as often you want .because you have orange volley and volley skill.

so even an offensive baseliner with low volley could play as an all rounder with 55 volley would by hitting a good approach and knocking off the easy volley but as with the 55 volley they cant hit good volleys under pressure . so in essence you play 99% from the baseline as you can only hit put-away volley as if you cant hit great volleys under pressure.


Again you´re refering to an allrounder almost as a S&V player.

I´m trying to say that with the club stats rule, you can have a setup 8/6/6 with Damian Salazar or Farah Lum and the player will be considered from the AAC. And both setups give just 55 volley. It doesn´t change anything of what I´m suggesting and what you´re saying.

I had this idea to give more options to the club. I´d like to see more discussion here, and more players.
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Postby RainingAmoeba79 » Mon, 25 Jul 2011 23:10

LOL my allrounder does not have 6 in each stat.

Oh well,I quit.

but i still think perfectace is on to something.
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Postby PerfectAce » Mon, 25 Jul 2011 23:16

RainingAmoeba79 wrote:LOL my allrounder does not have 6 in each stat.

Oh well,I quit.

but i still think perfectace is on to something.


I´m just trying to make some noise... :lol: This place is too quiet.
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Postby RainingAmoeba79 » Mon, 25 Jul 2011 23:19

LOL ik.
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Postby DarkTunde » Thu, 28 Jul 2011 18:00

After just playing a Women's Singles Challenger event using a 0/10/10 SC/SVK setup... I think I'll be staying with AAC, for my male player.

Dear Lord, I found it so boring to use. Good luck to the guys who play off/def baseline, but I personally found it too 'limiting' for my taste. As someone who likes variety on the court, I couldn't help but feel restricted in my choices.
I used to think I was indecisive... but now I'm not so sure.
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Postby RainingAmoeba79 » Fri, 29 Jul 2011 01:09

same experience here when i tried ir/ cps.
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Postby RainingAmoeba79 » Fri, 05 Aug 2011 09:51

ARGHHH I a seriously thinking of just going with IR/ CPS. It is too hard to resist!
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:19

RainingAmoeba79 wrote:ARGHHH I a seriously thinking of just going with IR/ CPS. It is too hard to resist!
i agree with dark tunde i dont like not being able to attack the net when i want if i come up against a good offensive or defensive baseliner
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Postby PerfectAce » Fri, 05 Aug 2011 14:24

RainingAmoeba79 wrote:ARGHHH I a seriously thinking of just going with IR/ CPS. It is too hard to resist!


There´s a way of creating a kinf of allrounder with rabari, but I don´t know if it would be effective. I think I´ll try 4/13/3 and see if it can makes me happy... :lol:
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Postby RainingAmoeba79 » Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:37

no, i am thiinking of giving up on all rounders as a whole! i mean, why not use something easier and win? I want to have fun, but i also want to be competetive.
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