6/8/6 with Matt Grody?

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6/8/6 with Matt Grody?

Postby Whoa121 » Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:23

How should I play this setup? Tips to construct points and stay in rallies against big hitters is appreciated :)
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Postby KamikazeeJeeper » Sun, 19 Jun 2011 17:22

6/8/6 with Matt Grody: 72-62-71-65-70-69-63-68

First off, 65 volley + volley shot artist is a big weapon. Imo, your game should revolve around your volley since this is the only stat that is better than your average opponent's. I use a similar setup (7/7/6 with Alex Bickham : 77-72-70-69-58-68-64-71) for my female player on World Tour and have had good success (75% winrate with grade 30).

If you're not comfortable volleying, or you just dont like volleying then you're probably using the wrong setup. Maybe try 0/14/6 with Roman Neuwirth or 0/12/8.

As for strategy, you should serve/power volley at the start of every match. If your opponent starts returning short then mix things up by sometimes stoping short (still use the the S/V modifier, but push back after you serve) to take a normal swing at the ball.

Against most players, your ground game will be slightly overpowered, so you'll need to play a bit defensively. Dont ever go for short angles unless you're way ahead in the rally because these shots will tend to sit up for your opponent. Use a mixture of deep cross/ deep line shots, if you feel even slightly out of position then always hit deep cross since this puts you in the center of your opponent's angle of attack.

When you string together a couple of effective shots and you feel your opponent is getting out of position then you should either approach to the net or power up a flat shot for an attempted winner. For net approaches, I mostly approach deep up the line and cover the line (I think I heard that on tennis channel, Corrina Morareau probably, she's so coachy/preachy).

Against pure power players, alternating short and deep slices is a good strategy. Usually a perfect deep slice will cause your opponent to cough up a short ball and let you take the offensive.

That should get you started. I might post some volley tips later but i'll leave you with this tidbit: A perfectly timed drop volley, placed right at your own feet will never take you out of the point.
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Postby DarkStriker97 » Sun, 19 Jun 2011 17:28

Hey Kamakazie, can I play a practice match against you? I'm think to switch to the 6/8/6 setup too, and I want you to see what I need to work on... :)
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Postby djarvik » Sun, 19 Jun 2011 17:38

@KamikazeeJeeper - Glad to see you joined man!


Hellava player here guys! Much respect!
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Postby RainingAmoeba79 » Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:01

I use a similar setup, and what has been posed here is usuaally what i do....
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Postby KamikazeeJeeper » Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:11

Thanks Djarvik.

@DarkStriker: A practice match... bleh, lol. Maybe I'll see u on the quickmatches. You may also consider 6/14/0 with Liseth Aguilar 73-61-83-67-70-62-55-69. I've been playin this setup on the mens tour for a couple days and it plays very similarly. The biggest difference is the serve. This setup has a bonafide good serve that very rarely gets crushed. A 71/70 serve like that of the Grody setup will often get thumped by players with good groundies/timing, which puts the S/Ver in the tough position of having to guess.

Edit to add: Liseth Aguilar also has the volley shot artist skill which is, in my opinion, critical to any volley setup with a marginal (orange) volley stat. Without volley shot artist, way too many 'good' timed shots end up as errors.
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:33

KamikazeeJeeper wrote:6/8/6 with Matt Grody: 72-62-71-65-70-69-63-68

First off, 65 volley + volley shot artist is a big weapon. Imo, your game should revolve around your volley since this is the only stat that is better than your average opponent's. I use a similar setup (7/7/6 with Alex Bickham : 77-72-70-69-58-68-64-71) for my female player on World Tour and have had good success (75% winrate with grade 30).

If you're not comfortable volleying, or you just dont like volleying then you're probably using the wrong setup. Maybe try 0/14/6 with Roman Neuwirth or 0/12/8.

As for strategy, you should serve/power volley at the start of every match. If your opponent starts returning short then mix things up by sometimes stoping short (still use the the S/V modifier, but push back after you serve) to take a normal swing at the ball.

Against most players, your ground game will be slightly overpowered, so you'll need to play a bit defensively. Dont ever go for short angles unless you're way ahead in the rally because these shots will tend to sit up for your opponent. Use a mixture of deep cross/ deep line shots, if you feel even slightly out of position then always hit deep cross since this puts you in the center of your opponent's angle of attack.

When you string together a couple of effective shots and you feel your opponent is getting out of position then you should either approach to the net or power up a flat shot for an attempted winner. For net approaches, I mostly approach deep up the line and cover the line (I think I heard that on tennis channel, Corrina Morareau probably, she's so coachy/preachy).

Against pure power players, alternating short and deep slices is a good strategy. Usually a perfect deep slice will cause your opponent to cough up a short ball and let you take the offensive.

That should get you started. I might post some volley tips later but i'll leave you with this tidbit: A perfectly timed drop volley, placed right at your own feet will never take you out of the point.

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hey I have the same setup but my fh is 82 instead so the 63 speed is enough ?. .
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Postby Dynushi » Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:38

kamikazejeeper..remember that name from wt,your male is named jim isn't he? guys, just trust him, he is very good ;-)

Soon you will know the difference between wt and itst...you won't say "lol" to a practice match anymore :D Give the guy a wildcard for wimbledon...come on!
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:57

KamikazeeJeeper wrote:Thanks Djarvik.

@DarkStriker: A practice match... bleh, lol. Maybe I'll see u on the quickmatches. You may also consider 6/14/0 with Liseth Aguilar 73-61-83-67-70-62-55-69. I've been playin this setup on the mens tour for a couple days and it plays very similarly. The biggest difference is the serve. This setup has a bonafide good serve that very rarely gets crushed. A 71/70 serve like that of the Grody setup will often get thumped by players with good groundies/timing, which puts the S/Ver in the tough position of having to guess.
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Edit to add: Liseth Aguilar also has the volley shot artist skill which is, in my opinion, critical to any volley setup with a marginal (orange) volley stat. Without volley shot artist, way too many 'good' timed shots end up as errors.
isnt 55 speed to slow and wouldnt it be better to have fh 83
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Postby KamikazeeJeeper » Sun, 19 Jun 2011 20:07

To me, the difference between 65 and 55 speed is barely noticeable, especially with decent reflexes which help your agility. Oddly, the difference between 68 and 62 stamina IS noticeable.

Post patch, stamina is the real achilles of the pure volley setups. My last setup on the male WT was 'Ted', 18/2/0, mostly with Michael Kelly and stats 67-67-86-94-48-49-56-83. With this setup I had a terrible record in tie-breaks because after 3 or 4 points, my guy would be completely drained and he'd stay that way for the entire tie break.

As far as whether or not to have a strong wing... I dunno, seems like a personal playstle choice.
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Postby RainingAmoeba79 » Sun, 19 Jun 2011 20:48

I like to have a stronger wing, but not like realllly stronger, just like 10 points. But i feel that all rounders and serve and volleyers need to have unbalanced groundies, because they cant afford 70+trokes on both wings, but need a weapon.
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Sun, 19 Jun 2011 22:34

RainingAmoeba79 wrote:I like to have a stronger wing, but not like realllly stronger, just like 10 points. But i feel that all rounders and serve and volleyers need to have unbalanced groundies, because they cant afford 70+trokes on both wings, but need a weapon

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you kinda right i have setups with strong wings with.a gap of more than 10 points. but with 70+ on both wings it makes certain shots easier ,like a good tactic for all rounders with low power it to step inside the baseline and hit short angle slice ala federer to create an angle and get a short ball to attack it is easier to do this with a 70+ bh if you dnt have a slice skill.but still it is nice to have a weapon and luke novak is agood.coach insideout master and TSi im starting master that shot and hit winners regularly i dont think people you that shot enough because you can have to 70+ wings or 80+ .it really does. give more power to.your shots.especially your strongest wing.
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Sun, 19 Jun 2011 23:03

KamikazeeJeeper wrote:To me, the difference between 65 and 55 speed is barely noticeable, especially with decent reflexes which help your agility. Oddly, the difference between 68 and 62 stamina IS noticeable.

Post patch, stamina is the real achilles of the pure volley setups. My last setup on the male WT was 'Ted', 18/2/0, mostly with Michael Kelly and stats 67-67-86-94-48-49-56-83. With this setup I had a terrible record in tie-breaks because after 3 or 4 points, my guy would be completely drained and he'd stay that way for the entire tie break.

As far as whether or not to have a strong wing... I dunno, seems like a personal playstle choice.
you gave me food for thought concerning Serve Volley and stamina but still there are still setups that allow you to serve volley and and not get gassed .
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Postby ray237 » Mon, 04 Jul 2011 21:44

I use 2/13/5 with matt grody. I've got solid groundstrokes and 80 power, but the volley stat is 57. Do you think it can be good with volley shot artist? or do i need a higher volley stat to be more incisive?
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Postby Dark-Disaster » Mon, 04 Jul 2011 22:30

ray237 wrote:I use 2/13/5 with matt grody. I've got solid groundstrokes and 80 power, but the volley stat is 57. Do you think it can be good with volley shot artist? or do i need a higher volley stat to be more incisive?


57 in volley shoud definetly be enough to finish points at the net, I'm pretty sure you can get away with a lower level. However, you have to choose your net approaches wisely.
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