cheap return - bkristian

[Avinash PatelBANNED]

Ya! Xctly. But I notice players with less than 80 cannot do such good topspin moonbll return...so maybe reduce how much plyr cn hv on bh and fh skill?

[SlicerITST]

I've experienced this a few times, it is quite annoying, especially because you can't really take the ball early even if you try, it kind of automatically forces your player back behind the baseline. Right?? Am I talking about the same thing? Just a really high moonball topspin return?

Oh well it's annoying as hell but what are you gonna do, ban topspin returns?? It's ok to hate things but there's nothing you can really do about it it's just a lame part of the game

That is the return yes. I think it is an exploit on the same level as the no momentum shots in TS2. Its almost impossible to hit this return by accident. So you have to make the decison whether or not to use it. For me there it stops being a lame part of the game and starts being an exploit.

As for actually banning it, that will prove to be difficult as a deep top spin return can look so similar to this return. Im sure about 90% will not be able to notice the difference.

[djarvik]

[dionl1993]

So on ts4 is it allowed to step inside or on the bassline because this slow serving is getting ridiculous, I really don't have a problem with people doing it aslong as I can step in and hit it home!!!

[bkristian]

holla itz dion

[polakis]

I am sick of itst theories and all the criticism on every hit...

I use slices my opponents says its cheasy...

I use drop shots and my opponent says its cheasy (retos for example)

I use wide slice serves and my opponent says its cheasy...

I use deep hits on the baseline and my opponent says its cheasy...

I use lobs and they say its cheasy...

I AM SICK ALL OF THESE...

How can we play in the end?

I am tired...

What do you say about that?

[Moralspain]

that post is cheesy

[EZE 17SUSPENDED]

I think the moral of the story is...bkristian was knowingly doing something over and over that he knew was an exploit in the game. I got the answer I was looking for.

[Rob ITST]

I am sick of itst theories and all the criticism on every hit...

I use slices my opponents says its cheasy...

I use drop shots and my opponent says its cheasy (retos for example)

I use wide slice serves and my opponent says its cheasy...

I use deep hits on the baseline and my opponent says its cheasy...

I use lobs and they say its cheasy...

I AM SICK ALL OF THESE...

How can we play in the end?

I am tired...

What do you say about that?

Ignore those people, and play however you want. Unless a host or manager tells you something, it doesn't really matter what anyone else thinks.

If it mattered so much what your opponents think, then we would vote on the rankings instead of counting wins and losses.

[KINAMINAJ]

that post is cheesy

. Hahahaha right!!!!!

[jayl0ve]

You can step inside the baseline to cut off wide slice serves, and it works pretty well, but you have to be sneaky with it (do it during his toss) otherwise, if the other guy has half a brain and sees you moving there before he tosses the ball, he will just serve 120 mph into your body and you won't be able to do s**t with it, it will likely go into the net even if you get perfect timing.

[Hollaa Itz Mike]

there are several top players who use this and yes i agree it is extremely annoying...

baghdad and ouimrberson r 2 players who come to mind that use it a lot.....and i feel like they r very fair players, but this is something that they could stop doing....

as for bkristian doing this, it does not surprise me at all....the guy will complain about just about everything u r doing in a match if he is losing 2 u, and states that the point of this site is to make the game realistic and FUN....well it is obvious to me that bkristian only has fun when he is winning, and he will use whatever cheesy tactic he can to "have fun"

anyways, bkristian i look forward to beating u in the 4th round.... as cheesy tactics can only get u so far in a tournament....

[jayl0ve]

Baghdad did do this to me a lot in the 1 match we've played but I just figured I suck at serving

I didn't think it was too big a deal, don't think it's cheating or anything, but yeah it's for sure super-annoying.

Also I don't mean to 'call out' Baghdad at all cuz I didn't see a problem with it other than it's hard to deal with, and I had no idea people thought it was 'cheesy' until I saw this.

[Rob ITST]

You can step inside the baseline to cut off wide slice serves, and it works pretty well, but........ he will just serve 120 mph into your body and ...... it will likely go into the net even if you get perfect timing.

Probably the biggest improvement made in TS4.

[EZE 17SUSPENDED]

there are several top players who use this and yes i agree it is extremely annoying...

baghdad and ouimrberson r 2 players who come to mind that use it a lot.....and i feel like they r very fair players, but this is something that they could stop doing....

as for bkristian doing this, it does not surprise me at all....the guy will complain about just about everything u r doing in a match if he is losing 2 u, and states that the point of this site is to make the game realistic and FUN....well it is obvious to me that bkristian only has fun when he is winning, and he will use whatever cheesy tactic he can to "have fun"

anyways, bkristian i look forward to beating u in the 4th round.... as cheesy tactics can only get u so far in a tournament....

Yeah, the dude is a complete joke. I guess this whole thing didn't matter much anyways. He got an extra 100-200 points or whatever, but whoever moved on was getting beat next round.