Cheesy serve tactic

[Hawkeye Miihawk]

It's already banned. Serving from the tramlines is not allowed.

[GOA MASTER MDMA]

in TS3 its definitifly banned and not allowed to serve from tramlines

so serving from tramlines is now also banned for TS4 ?

didn´t knowed this, i was a few weeks not in forum

but why than this thread,when this cheesy tactic is already banned?

[Coolhand Texas]

in TS3 its definitifly banned and not allowed to serve from tramlines

so serving from tramlines is now also banned for TS4 ?

didn´t knowed this, i was a few weeks not in forum

but why than this thread,when this cheesy tactic is already banned?

As of right now, no it is not banned

[jayl0ve]

it should be banned, pure and simple. its not SIM. ITST tries to replicate SIM tennis, correct? if someone is good it is nearly impossible to stop the doubles serve in a singles matches. the coverage angle is simply too great and its easy for them to track the return (if you get it).

its not tennis. BAN IT. if you say no to the ban then u must use it yourself...

'SIM' is just an abbreviation for 'simulation' and started in TS1, and the only thing it meant was 'no risk shots', because you could actually see when your opponent uses a risk shot in TS1.

It is not some underlying philosophy or something, I don't know where this whole thing started but it's just another facet of the tour

[GOA MASTER MDMA]

totally right jon.

plus at end of the day we play not real tennis !!
we play a game !
and we must accept the game mechanics .

so we play not tennis we play a tennis game

so what we call sim is nothing else as a illusion .
sim comes from TS1 .
like jon explained

mean in TS3 we had sim like own created players with reduced stats to eliminate overpowered gameplay

the job from itst is to eliminate cheesy tactics to make easy points, to bann bugs ,like missed risk in TS2 , or inside returning in TS3 , to garantie fairplay ,

and itst makes a good job here .

when we make a ""simtour "" in TS4 it ends with banning coaches (gold )
stuff like that , but the gamemechanics are forward existing

[djarvik]

All we do is pretend. All of us here.

- Some pretend it is a tennis game and they are the Pros.

- Some pretend they just down a quarter into the arcade machine and it sure not gonna be wasted.


Bottom line, this is a Fantasy Tour and the basis of this Fantasy is Tennis. At this point, SIM evolved to a movement status

[Hawkeye Miihawk]

in TS3 its definitifly banned and not allowed to serve from tramlines

so serving from tramlines is now also banned for TS4 ?

didn´t knowed this, i was a few weeks not in forum

but why than this thread,when this cheesy tactic is already banned?

As of right now, no it is not banned

Moralspain posted a thread called "Fair Play" in the TS4 general section, http://www.intertopspintour.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14682.

As you may or may not know, "cheesy" is a term used to describe a style of play that most players consider to be unfair. The style takes advantage of the games limitations, making it completely unrealistic compared to real life tennis. Examples of this would be: risk slice returning from inside the baseline, serving from the far corners (tramlines), lobbing returns, drop shot returns, among other things.

[GOA MASTER MDMA]

when we make a ""simtour "" in TS4 it ends with banning coaches (gold )

i missed some ,i saw this topic right now
http://www.intertopspintour.net/forum/v ... hp?t=14854


in parts it already happens , first coaches are banned

[SeanTayla]

in TS3 its definitifly banned and not allowed to serve from tramlines

so serving from tramlines is now also banned for TS4 ?

didn´t knowed this, i was a few weeks not in forum

but why than this thread,when this cheesy tactic is already banned?

As of right now, no it is not banned

Moralspain posted a thread called "Fair Play" in the TS4 general section, http://www.intertopspintour.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14682.

As you may or may not know, "cheesy" is a term used to describe a style of play that most players consider to be unfair. The style takes advantage of the games limitations, making it completely unrealistic compared to real life tennis. Examples of this would be: risk slice returning from inside the baseline, serving from the far corners (tramlines), lobbing returns, drop shot returns, among other things.

Tramline serving is CHEESE!

Yard10, you should edit this thread and add a Poll asking whether or not Tramline Serving should be strictly banned. If coaches can be banned then specific tactics can be as well. I'm sure this will require a massive amount of discussion and debate but in the end, the consensus will be to Ban it.

This is a community of TopSpin players that want to compete within fair circumstances. Those of you who think "SIM" is its own entity are absolutely mistaken.

By default, ITST is nothing but "SIM". Simulation Tennis is the ONLY reason that most of us came to this site. To not be forced into adjusting to the exploitations of the game IN ADDITION to the fair tennis tactics.

I understand that people view certain aspects differently than others but that does not mean that anyone's voice should not be heard. If this really is a "COMMUNITY", then management has no choice but to LISTEN to it's members.

[Julius Jackson]

such serving is exceptional cheese...no reason to allow it. its never done in real tennis and theres no need to have it allowed. it breaks the gm.

while its true not everything in ts4 is sim...we should do our best to eliminate as many unsim qualities of the gm as possible...and tramline serving is easily banned/enforced, so i see no plausible argument for allowing it.

[Rob ITST]

There's one real problem with banning it:

How close to the sidelines should you be allowed to stand? In TS3 , it was easy, the default position was as close as you could stand. In TS4, that's not possible, because you automatically move close as the match progresses.

[Julius Jackson]

simply takes some awareness. as long as u move in every set you are fine. if people cant remember to do that then we have problems

[Rob ITST]

Things like this have to be very clear cut. If you just say to move in every set, someone is going to complain that their opponent didn't move far enough.

[Yard10]

hmm i think as long as you dont move your player YOURSELF to the corners, its fine. but if your opponent do it, its your job to report to the host. so every player needs to keep an eye on their opponent. if you miss it, its your fault and there is nothing can be done.

i think even if the game automatically move your player as the match progresses, there is still some room for you to move your player yourself to the corners. so, your opponent should still be able to notice it.

however, ITST needs to clearly state to all members that tramline is banned and if you do it, your win will not be counted.

just my suggestion though..

[PerfectAce]

I believe banning completely the option of moving the player it´s too drastic. Lot´s of real players use until the middle of service area, especially when serving at their BH side. This happens because they can´t use the slice serve to open the court.

So, what all of you think of limiting until the middle of the service area? I don´t know if it´s going to work, but it´s an idea to limit this cheesy tactic...