Online Lack of Unforced Errors

[dsavbeast012]

The lack of unforced errors is killing this game for me.Basically every rally is a contest to see who can make the most angles. Not having to worry about UEs regardless of timing sucks and makes it too easy to just bash away. And the topspin invasion/monster defense skill is overpowered.

To fix online 2K needs to somehow make it so that guys can hit UEs more frequently. They also need to make speed and stamina matter, so that the 18 OB/2 DB guys can't dominate. This game was supposed to be balanced so that all skills could succeed. I have the diesel baseliner/volley shot artist b/c I like to finish points at the net. 3 SV, 10 OB, 7 DB. I want to rely on attacking my opponents' weaknesses to force them into errors, but that's impossible when UEs are nonexistent online. I've seen guys w/ 60 BH go the entire match w/o any UEs and kill me for attacking the side that should be weaker.

So basically in short - fix online play to make it so baseline bashing isn't the only way to win. Make stamina and speed matter more and tone down the topspin invasion/monster defense skills. I know online in every game is going to have cheesers, but I'm not talking about the max power/serve guys here as much as just general lack of UEs since online seems to be on normal difficulty default instead of hard or very hard. Even upping online difficulty to hard would suffice and make shot timing matter more and lead to more UEs.

BTW does anyone know for sure what the default difficulty is online for this game? I'm pretty sure it's normal, just wanted to see what others think.

[Oscarzero]

So you want to make "good shots" becoming unforced errors? Nevermind "perfect shots"

[dsavbeast012]

So you want to make "good shots" becoming unforced errors? Nevermind "perfect shots"

Yeah because that's definitely what I said in my post....

I have seen plenty of times where I hit a shot and throw my opponent off, only for them to get it back not only in play, but in a position that puts me on the defensive. Not saying that it doesn't happen in real life tennis, it does. But everyone on the game shouldn't have Nadal-like abilities when hitting on the run or when wrong footed. If you're on the run, you shouldn't be able to hit a top spin shot perfectly near the line, on your weaker side nonetheless.

There needs to be more factors taken into play when shots are hit. Now it seems that timing isn't enough of a consideration, as well as positioning. Of course good shots should go in, but now it's obvious that shots are being hit too late and still able to go in every time. That should not be the case. Not saying that every 'too late' shot should go out, but more of them should go in. It shouldn't be 2 UEs a match for each player, which is what happens in 90% of the online matches I play.

[Coolhand Texas]

So you want to make "good shots" becoming unforced errors? Nevermind "perfect shots"

yea where did you get that from his post?

[Oscarzero]

So you want to make "good shots" becoming unforced errors? Nevermind "perfect shots"

yea where did you get that from his post?

Or else how could the number of UE goes up? Another way is to change the timing and make it even harder to make good shots but would that be too strict?

[venom400]

the lack of unforced errors come from the unatural allocation of points to fh and bh , when I play people with lower backhand or forehand values ,errors do come from the weaker wing as it should be , but the problem with the MD TI set up is that the couch also gives you +15 forehand and backhand so anyone can put all the points to make both wings balanced which should give you a balanced player 71 on both sides , instead we have monster 85 fh and 85 bh setups on top of extra stamina and the TI MD skills .

The way to fix this is , dont have any couch give you double bonus to both wings unless you have at least 12 points in DB , the only characters that should do very few errors are the pusher like characters like murray .

Rightnow we have big hitters that never hit out .

[AUSSIE_FABS]

So you want to make "good shots" becoming unforced errors? Nevermind "perfect shots"

yea where did you get that from his post?

Or else how could the number of UE goes up? Another way is to change the timing and make it even harder to make good shots but would that be too strict?

By making it so when hit late or early it actually misses not just less power lol.
Sometimes does miss though but that when like on semi volley or you just screw up very bad.

[dsavbeast012]

Or else how could the number of UE goes up? Another way is to change the timing and make it even harder to make good shots but would that be too strict?

Basically 2K needs to be less forgiving for shots that are too late. If a shot is too late then it should be out 75% of the time. Of course good and perfect shots should go in a majority of the time if not every time. But the too late/too soon shots aren't being penalized enough IMO.

It's essentially taking a major part of real tennis, which is UEs, out of the game. Even Federer has shots where he's in perfect position and just shanks them. That element does not exist in this game, or isn't prevalent enough IMO. I'm not saying that every match should have 20 W/15 UEs or that much.

But it certainly should be more than the 2 UEs max I see from guys when I'm having 15+ shot rallies and getting them out of position multiple times only to see the ball come back.

[djarvik]

At this point, I am hitting "late" or "early" shots VERY rarely. So I think besides punishment for these, the timing window itself to pull of good shots needs to be shrank. ...and I dont consider myself "good" at the game.