Top Spin 4 Preview in the Video Games topical

by **Hamburgerboy27** » Thu, 20 Jan 2011 09:27

Have Buy me today the new Gamer magazine Video Games topical(Video Games Aktuell) and read the first right Preview in a Magazine about TS4.

The most important facts for me:

- By every Stroke you can see off the Display if the stroke good or no.(not only by Practice Matches by EVERY Matches) NICE

-The Gameplay is a mixture from Virtua Tennis and TS3. (Not good,i dont like Virtua Tennis) :cry:

-The Control became simplifies

- If give 4 Stroke Types

- NO RISC Stroke...only a perfect timing Topspin!(Wow great i dont like Risc Game by TS3 is no Tennis,no Fun,only Cheesy) Sorry :wink:

- The Graphics is little better as by TS3...not important for me ONLY the Gameplay!

- No Move or Kinetect Support...thanks 2K!

- by the Wii give a motion Controlls

- Top Spin 4 is a realistic Tennis Simulation

:wink:

by **jayl0ve** » Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:10

No risks?? That's unfortunate...hope the game's ok without risks, but I also kinda hope it sucks now, so all you guys who have been Risk nay-sayers since TS1 can see how stupid the game is without risk shots.

I'm glad the controls have apparently been simplified (TS3 gave a valiant effort but the controls are just too complex IMO). Until I know what 'simplified' really means though, I won't get too excited.

Honestly I couldn't care less about the whole 'no Kinect' support thing, I don't have Kinect nor do I ever want to get it.

by **Hamburgerboy27** » Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:07

Yes i have read without Risk and this is great...for me make the risk by TS3 the Gameplay broken and is very unrealistic!

But for the Risk give now a perfect timing Topspin...i not sure what is this...lol...but i hope this is better than Risk-strokes :wink:

Sorry my english is bad :cry:

by **emate007** » Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:11

Removing risk is a mixed bag... Could make the power stat even MORE important than it was in ts3, but on the other hand could produce more unforced errors from normal shots if timing now punishes a poorly executed button press.
Sorry to see the LT risk shot go though, that was done well in ts3.

by **tenjintenkai** » Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:23

No problem for your english (its not my native language either) it is nice to share some info. But some things are not very clear

Hamburgerboy27 wrote:- By every Stroke you can see off the Display if the stroke good or no.(not only by Practice Matches by EVERY Matches) NICE

What is that? So there's visual info on how well you got the shot? thats lame if you cant remove it in the options, but i guess you can.

Hamburgerboy27 wrote:-The Gameplay is a mixture from Virtua Tennis and TS3. (Not good,i dont like Virtua Tennis)

-The Control became simplifies

Now you do scare me... Virtua Tennis? I hope the guy who did the preview said that because it was faster than TS3 and didnt know how to explain it... i really hope so.

Hamburgerboy27 wrote:- NO RISC Stroke...only a perfect timing Topspin!(Wow great i dont like Risc Game by TS3 is no Tennis,no Fun,only Cheesy) Sorry

Well... i am one of those people that didnt master the risk shots and get hammered by people who can do it on every shot. But on the other hand i thought it was REALISTIC to put risk shots, it just needed to be tweaked so you can't master it to the point you can hit risk all the time.

Hamburgerboy27 wrote:- Top Spin 4 is a realistic Tennis Simulation

well i hope so... doesnt quite look like it anymore with these info... -_-
Im still confident but the lack of info is killing us!

by **SoundfSilence** » Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:28

Risk has always been a big part in the Top Spin series, it is what they are very good at. I hope they haven't removed the risk aspect altogether...

I'm actually glad there is no Move / Kinect support. I'd rather they concentrate solely on the gameplay to be perfect, than compromise gameplay to have Move. Not sure if this is the case though, as the PS3 boxes seem to show Move support.

by **Hamburgerboy27** » Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:29

I think foa all risk Player is this a problem by TS3 but for all without risk Players is the news sure great :wink:

The stroke strong by TS4 is the same who by TS3 when you make a perfect timing stroke you have more power.

This is the problem for me by TS3 against Risk Players... i must to attempt by every stroke make a perfect timing stroke too become more Power in my Stroke...when i have not the perfect strike my opponent can make a good Risk and win maybe the point.

I have by some Matches:

Me/Opponent

4/35 Unforced errors

15/50 Winners

By this Statistic can men see the difference between Risk and no Risk player and i hope without Risk is TS4 more balanced... :wink:

by **beltic caldy** » Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:33

no risk!!! yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy!!!!!!!! been putting off learning how to use it (well, failed utterly to get the hang of it with the few feeble attempts i've made).....no more getting powered off the court perhaps...!!?!?! Understand could mean a mixed bag tho.....hmmmmm......virtua tennis hybrid tho.....hmmmmmm.....

by **Hamburgerboy27** » Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:41

What is that? So there's visual info on how well you got the shot? thats lame if you cant remove it in the options, but i guess you can.

Yes is right a visual info if you have a perfect strong or too late or too earlier...yes i hope cant remove this in the Option i want have this Info not by a ITST Match :wink:

Hamburgerboy27 wrote:-The Gameplay is a mixture from Virtua Tennis and TS3. (Not good,i dont like Virtua Tennis)

-The Control became simplifies

Now you do scare me... Virtua Tennis? I hope the guy who did the preview said that because it was faster than TS3 and didnt know how to explain it... i really hope so.

Hamburgerboy27 wrote:
I have read a Mixture from Virtua Tennis and TS3 and was not more info about this,sorry.I think the Gameplay is little easier and better for beginner...

- NO RISC Stroke...only a perfect timing Topspin!(Wow great i dont like Risc Game by TS3 is no Tennis,no Fun,only Cheesy) Sorry

Well... i am one of those people that didnt master the risk shots and get hammered by people who can do it on every shot. But on the other hand i thought it was REALISTIC to put risk shots, it just needed to be tweaked so you can't master it to the point you can hit risk all the time.

I think SOME Risk is now problem but the most peoples play now "all the time risk"...this is a problem, not only for me.

well i hope so... doesnt quite look like it anymore with these info... -_-
Im still confident but the lack of info is killing us!

Yes i hope this more realistic Gameplay,but please not more Virtua Tennis Gameplay...please not K2 :wink:

by **SoundfSilence** » Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:44

tenjintenkai wrote:Well... i am one of those people that didnt master the risk shots and get hammered by people who can do it on every shot. But on the other hand i thought it was REALISTIC to put risk shots, it just needed to be tweaked so you can't master it to the point you can hit risk all the time.

I thought the difficulty of hitting the different risk shots was just about right in TS3.

Players in ITST community play at the highest standards, so there are going to be players who hit risk shots with high success rate. Even if you make risk harder, these players will practice enough to get good at it with high success. The average player (non ITST, casual player etc) would find risk shots hard to do. Making it harder will only make it worse for those players.

Gameplay in TS3 is painfully slow, I do hope it is an improvement in TS4.

by **SoundfSilence** » Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:57

Hamburgerboy27 wrote:The stroke strong by TS4 is the same who by TS3 when you make a perfect timing stroke you have more power.

This is the problem for me by TS3 against Risk Players... i must to attempt by every stroke make a perfect timing stroke too become more Power in my Stroke...when i have not the perfect strike my opponent can make a good Risk and win maybe the point.

I have by some Matches:

Me/Opponent

4/35 Unforced errors

15/50 Winners

By this Statistic can men see the difference between Risk and no Risk player and i hope without Risk is TS4 more balanced...

Well, I find that to risk successfully, you have to have perfect timing / positioning. Sometimes with luck, your risk goes in without being perfect, but then it's not a great shot either.

Put it this way, the player with better timing wins. If you have better timing and play an opponent with worse timing who constantly risk, you will win. If your opponent has better timing than you, and he risks, he will win. Then add the factor of risking at the right moment of the match (risk:reward).

Actually, the statistics you posted, the ratio of winners:unforced errors on the guy who risked is more reaslistic. There are matches I've played when I don't risk and come out 30 winners 2 unforced errors etc. Hell, some people even come out with 30 winners 0 unforced errors LOL

I'll leave it there on risk. BUT risk is what the Top Spin series have been good at!