Contador tested positive

[Amazing Matheja]

Sorry... I can't resist!
Note that i drew a veil over the Puerto's case...

[Saarbrigga]

According to german media, Contador was tested in köln (cologne) some weeks before the Tour and in his blood is evidence about own-blood-doping (i don t know the german word for "Eigenblutdoping").

[Amazing Matheja]

...and in his blood is evidence about own-blood-doping (i don t know the german word for "Eigenblutdoping").

Plastic marks were found in his blood... Same kind of marks they founded in Vinokourov's blood... You know? When Vino was convinced of autotransfusion doping at that famous Tour De France... When Rasmussen was flying over the hills... And when I saw something i never thought i would : Someone (Rasmussen) grabbing the brakes while climbing the Alpes d'Huez! Oh! And Contador, Evans, were there too... Following Rasmussen quite easily...
Ha! I always like when climbers suddenly become great "wheeler" (= time trial specialists)... And i don't talk when "wheelers" suddenly become climbers....
Cycling is so great nowadays... Plastic in blood?....

[jayl0ve]

What a filthy sport. Seriously.

[emate007]

Haha... I'm not sure if it's because of the ridiculous testing requirements of the French or the traceable doping habits of all cyclists, but I've heard more about doping in cycling than any sport I regularly follow.

Side note - I do enjoy baseball, and realize the contradiction. But with no public ownership it's "OK" to take HGH in baseball. As long as you don´t get caught.

[Chederer]

Haha... I'm not sure if it's because of the ridiculous testing requirements of the French or the traceable doping habits of all cyclists, but I've heard more about doping in cycling than any sport I regularly follow.

Side note - I do enjoy baseball, and realize the contradiction. But with no public ownership it's "OK" to take HGH in baseball. As long as you don´t get caught.

THATS WHAT HE SAID...

[Amazing Matheja]

Oops! Another positive test for Alberto? (After the 1st one about Clenbu and maybe some plastic, a 2nd one that seems to be positive about plastic... 2nd test made before the 1st one...)

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/05/sport ... ref=sports

B. Kohl testimony, at the end of the article, is... somehow priceless!

By the way, all those methods are not for cyclists only, you know...
I'm more than sure that those doping methods are also used in soccer, tennis, track & field, swimming, basket, rugby, baseball.... Why you only hear about "doping in cycling" is because yes, cycling is a 90% physic sports only (where you need a lot of O2 going quickly to muscles and lambs), but also because cycling is THE sport where most efforts are done to "fight" and find doping... (well, looking at what the other sports do to eradicate doping : nothing!)

[Amazing Matheja]

Bye bye Alberto ! Thanks for the fun !

[Moralspain]

Bye bye Alberto ! Thanks for the fun !

Haha, problem here is that he can compete again in augost, i don't get it, i guess it's 2 years from 2010, which is a nonsense because he hasn't stopped racing
BTW any news about Armstrong and all that Landis said about him?, just asking, don't know if TAS has already said something about it

[SlicerITST]

Bye bye Alberto ! Thanks for the fun !

Haha, problem here is that he can compete again in augost, i don't get it, i guess it's 2 years from 2010, which is a nonsense because he hasn't stopped racing

Yeah, this is the weirdest thing ever. It makes absolutely no sense to me.

BTW any news about Armstrong and all that Landis said about him?, just asking, don't know if TAS has already said something about it

This case has been dropped last week.

[Moralspain]

BTW as far as i could heard the sentence doesn't say Contador took drugs, CAS couldn't prove that fact , but the point is that Alberto Contador couldn't justify why he had clenbuterol in his blood either, kinda strange final judgement though, i mean he was from beginning presummed guilty and not presummed innocent, i guess that cycling is different because i think it's the opposite with the regular justice system
Can't give a personal opinion on this because i'd need more info.


Edit: yep i checked , the law for cycling is a bit different, you have to prove your innocence not viceversa, and here Contador was unable to prove why he was tested positive with clenbuterol, CAS doesn't know what happened and couldn't prove Contador took drugs and has no idea where the 5 pictograms come from, CAS just added that the “presence of clenbuterol was more likely caused by the ingestion of a contaminated food supplement” but according to law CAS didn't have to prove anything but Contador had to, so i guess the sentence is correct

[SlicerITST]

I guess it kinda makes sense. CAS can never proof how exactly someone gets something in his blood. There are just so many ways. If they had to cases would take years to complete.

[Corbon]

Cycling is the dirtiest sport in the world with the weakest argument: "Everyone is dong it so why not me?"

Based on calories spent per day (or hour, don't remember) the Tour de France is, physically, the most demanding sports event in the world and with so much money involved by now and the advances in medicine it's not ridiculous to thnk that at least half of the racers are doped in one way or another. Remember Jan Ulrich and his toothpaste thing? Maybe they should all switch to coke (after consulting Martina Hingis about the side effects and aftermath) to level the field and then claim it's a bad habit.

[Amazing Matheja]

Actually, CAS had its "proof" : Positive control. It was up to Alberto to explain the "why" or the "how"... CAS has not accepted Alberto explanation, so he's suspended.

Haha, problem here is that he can compete again in augost, i don't get it, i guess it's 2 years from 2010, which is a nonsense because he hasn't stopped racing

Yeah, this is the weirdest thing ever. It makes absolutely no sense to me.

Same here.
Funny thing is that Bjarne Riis has to "defend" Alberto for what he did in 2010... Year when Riis was Schleck 's boss and so he was Alberto's "ennemy" !

But another point is : When Alberto will be able to compete again, if he wins races, he will NOT score UCI's points for 1 or 2 years ! So his team won't have the benefit of his wins = no points ! So maybe no teams will want Contador because : Huge salary, but no points earned for the UCI World Tour...
I believe Riis is already looking for another top cyclist for this year... And maybe Alberto will struggle to find a good new team...
And this year maybe we'll only have a BMC/Schleck duel... Not very exciting if you ask me...

...with so much money involved by now and the advances in medicine it's not ridiculous to thnk that at least half of the athletes are doped in one way or another....

Fixed.

Just saying this, because I believe all kind of athletes are highly* doped... In every sports... Even curling, darts... ^^

* : To me, since EPO, and high "medecine" assists, it's dopng at another kind of level than "before"...

[SlicerITST]

Same here.
Funny thing is that Bjarne Riis has to "defend" Alberto for what he did in 2010... Year when Riis was Schleck 's boss and so he was Alberto's "ennemy" !

But another point is : When Alberto will be able to compete again, if he wins races, he will NOT score UCI's points for 1 or 2 years ! So his team won't have the benefit of his wins = no points ! So maybe no teams will want Contador because : Huge salary, but no points earned for the UCI World Tour...
I believe Riis is already looking for another top cyclist for this year... And maybe Alberto will struggle to find a good new team...
And this year maybe we'll only have a BMC/Schleck duel... Not very exciting if you ask me...

I did hear Riis his team will loose the points of the last year gained by Contador. That means they might loose their license.

If he also looses his points for the next 1 to 2 year i would find that a bit unfair. You are right to say he will have a tough time finding a new team. Or at least no team will be build around him. That team will have to have other stars as well.

This year's TdF is a time trail heaven(almost 100km of ITT). I dont really see anyone beating Evans if he stays on his bike. I dont see Schleck as being able to beat Evans in an ITT. I wont rule it out but i dont see it happening. Hence i am going to name two talented guys i think might surprise this year. Thomas de Gendt and Peter Velits. The first one was very good in the last time trail last year and had a good last week in the mountains. He didnt finish high in the final standings but that was mainly due to a big fall in the first week. Velits might have his breakthrough year. Very big talent.