My CAP pros in pictures...

[VILARCANE]

Not bad, you got a few things right there, but not distinctive enough...i would even go as far as saying it looks more like Simon if you gave him his haircut. I have actually tried doing a second Gasquet the other day and made what is think is a much a better one i will show you some time but i am away so itll wait a few days...made quite a decent llodra 2, with spot-on move set (meaning one-h backhand A, forehand A or D and serve A !)
i really like your dedication and this time your eyes look perfectly human which is a huge step forward for sam, right guys ?

The key to doing a great gasquet is mouth shape and the nose (thick and flat), i got that right on mine at least...my first gasquet from page 2 or 3 of this thread is still better than this one 2, IMO

CU, and dont forget my Bennet

[Gemini]

Id agree there does look more like Simon
But could be a nice Gasquet with correct work
Still think its brilliant work from both You & ViL , I dont class myself as crap @ creation but for me it obviously takes longer ... You 2 seem to create @ will

[sam250]

Hello, you think it looks like Simon??? lol simon's head is twice if not more bigger/larger than this, his complexion isnt that one at all and his eyes are much bigger, oh and his eyebrows are another type. Aswell as his nose is not at all like that, anyway I tried to improve it a bit but I couldnt do that much so I will do Simon next

[Gemini]

Ya more like Simon, not Simon if you get me , to be Gasquet needs to be more distinctive , So would say from your Gasquet model a Simon could be created LOL . Either way still nice stuff

[AVFC_93]

Oh come on, Sam you messaged me the other day saying that 2k sports should hire you for creating players your that good. and if you didnt tell us that it was gasquet and you took his cap off nobody would have had any reason to think it was gasquet at all. yeah you make some very good creations like with soderling and almagro, but alot of yours are completely unrecognisable such as isner and gasquet and i would have only had the slighest idea of who they were by the cap style, you rely too much on hair styles, like how many people wear a cap backwards in the atp that we know for example????

[Gemini]

@ AVFC_93 this thread isnt meant to be a slag fest mate not stating your slagging to be truthful... , Im assuming Sam create s them for enjoyment & show creative talent like myself assuming ViL aswell

As For 2K hiring hmm... , no offence to anyone Ive my view on it actually which ive mentioned before .

[AVFC_93]

@ AVFC_93 this thread isnt meant to be a slag fest mate not stating your slagging to be truthful... , Im assuming Sam create s them for enjoyment & show creative talent like myself assuming ViL aswell

As For 2K hiring hmm... , no offence to anyone Ive my view on it actually which ive mentioned before .

oh no i didnt mean to slag him off, sams sound, but everyone seems to be scared of just saying when they dont like a creation tbh

[Gemini]

Ok I understand but doubt they just saying its a likeness, for sake of it sometimes the likeness is more profound thats all, & the editor is far from easy ...

[sam250]

Wow lol I agree this Gasquet is not recognisable but not that he looks like simon!!!!!! thats all. At the end when creating Gasquet, I was very dissapointed!!!!! But Ive worked hard on him so I had some little things that shown up good ingame (like mouth and nose). But I agree the Gasquet is pretty bad in some aspects but I really dont know whats the problem, what I need to improvve. As for AVFC_93, whats your point lol?

P-S: (only to AVFC_93) Sorry if you didnt understand jokes , I said the 2k thing because you were mad at me so I just wanted to make you more

[sam250]

Im assuming Sam create s them for enjoyment & show creative talent like myself assuming ViL aswell

Yup, pure enjoyement and to make a larger roster (I have almost all ATP top 30 )

[VILARCANE]

@AFVC : i for one do not hesitate to say if i don't like sam's caps, but it always comes with some advice on what is wrong and stuff.
Like Gasquet and Djoko are far from the real deal, Djoko being way better than Gasquet anyways.

But I can understand why you react this way cause sam has a tendency to praise himself before getting credit from his audience, which is something i did a bit at the beginning and earns you nothing but that kind of pointless arguments, and being on the other side, it also irritates me a bit, but it is human nature, and sam has the decency to always accept criticism without trying to justify himself too much.

So Sam, for your sake, just skip the intro (like saying you cant do a pro any better, which i don't agree with, see your multiple sods ), post your stuff (without the name of the pro) and wait for feedback, be it satisfying or disappointing (considering the time you put in your CAPs).

This time you won't get any acid comments from noone.

Then again, it is obvious we all do that because we enjoy taking the editor to the limits, and just wanna share and get feedbacks to improve.
Creating some pros can be ridiculously difficult...
AFVC, do you have any CAP to share with us btw
Show us your Gasquet

[AVFC_93]

@AFVC : i for one do not hesitate to say if i don't like sam's caps, but it always comes with some advice on what is wrong and stuff.
Like Gasquet and Djoko are far from the real deal, Djoko being way better than Gasquet anyways.

But I can understand why you react this way cause sam has a tendency to praise himself before getting credit from his audience, which is something i did a bit at the beginning and earns you nothing but that kind of pointless arguments, and being on the other side, it also irritates me a bit, but it is human nature, and sam has the decency to always accept criticism without trying to justify himself too much.

So Sam, for your sake, just skip the intro (like saying you cant do a pro any better, which i don't agree with, see your multiple sods ), post your stuff (without the name of the pro) and wait for feedback, be it satisfying or disappointing (considering the time you put in your CAPs).

This time you won't get any acid comments from noone.

Then again, it is obvious we all do that because we enjoy taking the editor to the limits, and just wanna share and get feedbacks to improve.
Creating some pros can be ridiculously difficult...
AFVC, do you have any CAP to share with us btw
Show us your Gasquet

i just thought maybe critisism will motivate him, im his friend i werent trying to hurt his feelings. i have only made john isner who i think cant be improved on for me lol, i wont post him up because youll all say he is terrible now regardless of what he looks like lol. i have attempted querrey soderling and mahut who sam said he will help me out with. as for making gasquet lol i ent even gonna try he's too hard for me, and i think his gasquet looks more like isner than simon to me.....

[sam250]

Critics do motivate me and I ALWAYS ALWAYS accepts them, for AVFC he's my friend I have nothing to say to him he knows , but good parts have to be said!! Ill skip the intro Vil but there are not much much to be done from now, im just saying that I forgot in the past to post my final ferrer, and I will make a Simon, but im too busy at the moment I don't understand, who was scared saying my Pro's where bad? which of my pro you say is bad AVFC ? (apart from Gasquet and Isner that you said? )

P-S: Vil' can you please say more about how to make a good Gasquet, I really wanna make a good one and I did not think my Djoko is far from real!!! but now you say it then maybe it is

[VILARCANE]

@AFVC : we would never bash ur isner if its good so why dont you post him ? We are desperately waiting on new posters here (what a relief for me when sam showed up and caught me by surprise with his soderling ). We are 100% fairplay and love for nice creations and dedication to portraying our beloved pros as close as possible to real life counterparts

[AVFC_93]

well in my opinion you start off with creations that can be improved on but you dont realise it, and sometimes you start off with bad creations but you are clearly always capable of better. i apoligise if i offended you it wasnt my intention.

anyway im gonna attempt to make mahut next does anyone have a formula for me please to help??? i think vilarcanes and mack2300 are REALLY good. i know mahut is like 150 in the world but his overall seems over 70 to me, id say.....fh 64 bh 62 power 76 volley 77 serve 85 stamina 88 speed 64 return 52, anyone disagree?