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King of the surfaces (Clay, Grass, Hard)

Postby Saarbrigga » Sun, 06 Jun 2010 18:57

Clay: Nadal (5 times French, Clay Slam in 2010)

Grass: Pistol Pete (7 times Wimbledon against the best competition)

Hard: Federer (9 GS titles on hard, 5 US Open, 4 Australien Open)

Your favorites?
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Postby Otlichno » Sun, 06 Jun 2010 19:06

Federer is the King of Tennis.

Nadal is the King of Clay. Nadal on Clay is the only thing that can beat a Federer who is thinking clearly and playing well.

Of course Soderling beating Federer would imply otherwise but it was obvious Federer was not mixing it up like he usually does against Soderling, he was simply giving him shots from the baseline with pace and wasn't using the slice or going to the net to try and break Soderling's rhythm. Federer was not playing well and certainly was not thinking clearly.
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Postby Elargento » Sun, 06 Jun 2010 19:15

my favorites:

grass: a tie between sampras and federer.

clay: vilas, he may have not won so many rg but he won 45 tnts only on clay, and he had the longest clay court matches streak until a player with an illegal stirngbed beat him.

hard: roger with 9 slams and a lot of ms that pretty much says it all
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Postby Mike Rotchtickles » Sun, 06 Jun 2010 19:16

I'd say on clay for me it's still pretty close between Borg and Nadal.
Borg had won 6 FO's by the age of 25. It could very well have been 7 titles there if he hadn't missed playing Roland Garros in 1977.
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Postby Mike Rotchtickles » Sun, 06 Jun 2010 19:39

Elargento wrote:clay: vilas, he may have not won so many rg but he won 45 tnts only on clay, and he had the longest clay court matches streak until a player with an illegal stirngbed beat him.


Villas was a great player, no doubt about that. That year he had in '77 was unbelievable.
Borg owned him, though, and on all surfaces, and particularly on clay with a lopsided head-to-head of 10-2.
He also got beat in straights in both of his FO finals v Borg, and the year Villas won his only title there was the year that Borg skipped the tournament.
Borg was simply better, and in terms of this discussion, a superior clay courter.
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Postby Ir0kuM4t4 » Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:06

Elargento wrote:my favorites:

grass: a tie between sampras and federer.

clay: vilas, he may have not won so many rg but he won 45 tnts only on clay, and he had the longest clay court matches streak until a player with an illegal stirngbed beat him.

hard: roger with 9 slams and a lot of ms that pretty much says it all


What do you mean with illegal stringbed Elargento?
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Postby Moralspain » Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:10

Ir0kuM4t4 wrote:
Elargento wrote:my favorites:

grass: a tie between sampras and federer.

clay: vilas, he may have not won so many rg but he won 45 tnts only on clay, and he had the longest clay court matches streak until a player with an illegal stirngbed beat him.

hard: roger with 9 slams and a lot of ms that pretty much says it all


What do you mean with illegal stringbed Elargento?


well actually it´s called "Spaghetti string"
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Postby Mike Rotchtickles » Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:17

Wasn't it Nastase who used that illegal stringing method when he beat Villas?

Apparently the way that racquet is strung it gives much more spin to the ball but the shots are less powerful than with regularly strung racquets.
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Postby fedfan » Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:38

Looking at it like that I would say Nadal's streak thus far is the best and could well go on and on. His run covers more tournaments and more opponents, plus he defeated Federer to win 3 of his Roland Garros titles.

The runs on grass are great but they do tend to only surround the one event, Wimbledon.

Federer's all around run of consecutive final wins is unbelievable though given the stretch of time it covers also.
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Postby Elargento » Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:17

yeah you are right borg owned pretty much vilas, but anyway its my personal favourite.
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Postby fedfan » Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:25

Borgs run of RG/Wimbledon doubles was also mighty impressive.
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Postby AUSSIE_FABS » Mon, 07 Jun 2010 03:09

Wasn't there a large gap inbetween them. Not trying to take away what he did because it was bloody impressive. But I think it a lot harder to do it these days.
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Postby Elargento » Mon, 07 Jun 2010 03:25

AUSSIE_FABS wrote:Wasn't there a large gap inbetween them. Not trying to take away what he did because it was bloody impressive. But I think it a lot harder to do it these days.


i am a bit lost who are you taking about?
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Postby AUSSIE_FABS » Mon, 07 Jun 2010 03:30

Well according to some commentator rg and wimbledon used to be further apart. I just assumed he wasn't lying lol.
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Postby Elargento » Mon, 07 Jun 2010 03:36

ah, i didn't know that. what i did know is that us open was played on clay before and the aussy open on grass.
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