they both are sad games. the real virtual football remains pes5 or, even better, its japanese version , we9. outstanding, try it guys. pes is kinda crappy...still too much messi-ronaldo-ibra oriented. a skilled player can keep the ball the whole match and there's still too much bitching with wings players + cheap rocket shooting. less than last year but heck, this should be the next gen... excellent idea to eliminate manual keeper, the most useful thing in the world at pro level (i mean in real tournaments, not vs cpu)
fifa has the sliding players, as always, and near to 0 choral play, with the 3 part of your team (def, mid and atk) whose men run in always the same direction, for example during a counterattack. as always, there's a too low interaction between the 3 parts. plus, when they finally could eliminate the effectiveness of cheeeeeap lob pass at 3 km/h, i'll be always grateful
football is another matter, those are just two games that looks like that sport.