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Postby fernado9t0rres » Tue, 19 May 2009 10:57

Yeh i agree against the power freaks on WT they become predictable but when i play anyone from here on WT is when i find it harder to return specially against Djarvik don't think even he knows where he is gonna serve next :lol:
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Postby Coolhand Texas » Tue, 19 May 2009 12:44

I played a nice sim match with joesixtoe last night. I lost to him 7-6, 6-7, 7-6. We each had a chance in the last tiebreak before he capitalized. this match was all about the baseline, it was a baseliner duel, with low unforced errors. Both of risked more than normal, but didnt affect our game too much. He said that after the first and half of the seocnd he was playing offensive but then move dot defensive b/c i was making more risk, which is true. Joe really is one heck of a defensive plyer b/c he gets to every ball and usually sends bakc with enough power to keep him in the rallie.

We each were 0 for 3 on break point. I was really impressed on how joe fixed his serve and served well even when his stamina was off the chart.

Very nice match, joe.
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Postby Chederer » Tue, 19 May 2009 15:30

i played pica in a full match last night....okay this time 1st set was same result as our 1 setter---he won 6-1, 2nd set i said to myself i really need to turn it up to 110% i was in the zone on the returns and stole the 2nd set in a tiebreak i won 7-6, 3rd set we just kept breaking each other back and forth until it was 4-4 as usual he broke me and once again i said ive broken him twice all ready this set why cant i again, but i came up short when we got to deuce he had two really big serves and closed it out..........final score CHEDERER loses to Picachu211-- 1-6, 7-6, 4-6 i can see now that i need to work on serve---anyone have any pointers on how to improve my serve? joesixtoe has pointed this out, so i really just need to improve the placement or something, because i feel like i mix it up okay
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Postby MisterGregory42 » Wed, 20 May 2009 11:16

Rocketsfall wrote:I tested a 90 return character against Mack last night. He won 7-6 6-4. The 90 return didn't help me a f*ck. Non-risk returns are just as useless as with a 40 return. (As if you guys didn't already know.)
I guess I better accept that my returns will never be any good. Just concentrate on my serve games and try to grab any half chance on the return.
Nice match btw :)


Yeah, I tried using a player with 90 in return and it didn't make a difference for me either - but that's just because I can't return well. (I've been pretty bad at it since the update.) Like other people have alluded to, it just comes down to your position (anticipation) and timing. My problem is the positioning...for some reason I'm just never quick enough to get to the serve.

I think that having a 90 in return is just like having a 90 in backhand, serve, volley, or anything else...if you can't perform that particular skill with the proper timing, simply raising that stat up to 90 isn't necessarily going to help you.
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Postby Mack2300 » Wed, 20 May 2009 14:46

MrGregory42 wrote:
Rocketsfall wrote:I tested a 90 return character against Mack last night. He won 7-6 6-4. The 90 return didn't help me a f*ck. Non-risk returns are just as useless as with a 40 return. (As if you guys didn't already know.)
I guess I better accept that my returns will never be any good. Just concentrate on my serve games and try to grab any half chance on the return.
Nice match btw :)


Yeah, I tried using a player with 90 in return and it didn't make a difference for me either - but that's just because I can't return well. (I've been pretty bad at it since the update.) Like other people have alluded to, it just comes down to your position (anticipation) and timing. My problem is the positioning...for some reason I'm just never quick enough to get to the serve.

I think that having a 90 in return is just like having a 90 in backhand, serve, volley, or anything else...if you can't perform that particular skill with the proper timing, simply raising that stat up to 90 isn't necessarily going to help you.


That tends to be my problem too on return. I have "lazy feet" :lol: I notice a lot of people shuffle around when they are waiting to return serve but I tend to leave it to the very last minute to make a move. Saying that, I also go through periods where I return really well and others where I just keep dumping it in the net but I think that depends on lag and how severe it is coz I use LT a lot when I return now.
I tried a few set-ups where I used a 90 return stat but like others here have stated, I found it pretty useless coz you still have to risk a lot to have success against the good servers. I think 55 is enough for return and coupled with a high speed stat, it should be effective enough to get by with
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Postby fernado9t0rres » Wed, 20 May 2009 14:58

That tends to be my problem too on return. I have "lazy feet" I notice a lot of people shuffle around when they are waiting to return serve but I tend to leave it to the very last minute to make a move. Saying that, I also go through periods where I return really well and others where I just keep dumping it in the net but I think that depends on lag and how severe it is coz I use LT a lot when I return now.
I tried a few set-ups where I used a 90 return stat but like others here have stated, I found it pretty useless coz you still have to risk a lot to have success against the good servers. I think 55 is enough for return and coupled with a high speed stat, it should be effective enough to get by with


Then again it feels good having high return stat when someone isnt that good a server i mean people who arent hitting the lines then the high stat is very affective or they just predictable but these days thats rare everyone can serve well :lol: wish it was harder to serve in the game specially second serves its so annoying when you get people hitting the lines on second serve at 140mph :shock:
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Postby Chederer » Wed, 20 May 2009 15:15

i have the exact opposite problem----i return well and actually enjoy returning more than i do serving....i think sometimes people have a problem with returning becuase they hit it to the same spot depth wise--you really have to mix up the depth not just the direction and you have to mix up the speed---its just like a serve---if you serve 125mph everytime your opponent will soon catch on and risk it everytime----my problem on serve is that i run out of ideas i think i try to be to methodical---hes thinking that im thinking im gonna hit it where where hes thinking, but it just all comes down to anticipation and placement both on serve and return
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Postby fernado9t0rres » Wed, 20 May 2009 15:25

I remember playing you awhile back on WT CHEDERER because i remember thinking i have never seen anyone execute the double risk A on the run like you did any tips? :lol:

Does anyone else have a problem against riskers when your player just dosent react :?
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Postby VillaJ100 » Wed, 20 May 2009 16:35

played some games with my SV player on exhibition, played against some guy called rubber666, who used fed i won 6-3 3-6 7-6. The other 2 people had long ass names like daHUSTla776435 something like that, one used roddick and other nalbandian, against roddick i won 7-6 2-6 7-6 and against nalbandian 7-5 7-5. All the players were of a good quality. I also played coke4 and lost 2-6 2-6, but when i play his i get some wierd lag as i try to volley so my player sort of has a spasm and misses the ball lol. I had some success though, even losing 2 and 2.
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Postby Chederer » Wed, 20 May 2009 16:48

fernado9t0rres wrote:I remember playing you awhile back on WT CHEDERER because i remember thinking i have never seen anyone execute the double risk A on the run like you did any tips? :lol:

Does anyone else have a problem against riskers when your player just dosent react :?


TS3 in my opinion is all about positioning if you are too close to the ball when you release your swing you get all jammed up and the ball will usually sail long on a risk shot. If you are too far back and the ball is out in front you will probably just pop it up and have it smashed right back in your face. I just try and get into the best posistion possible to hit my next shot....so now give me some tips on serve
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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Wed, 20 May 2009 16:54

fernado9t0rres wrote:
Does anyone else have a problem against riskers when your player just dosent react :?


when this happens your player is to fat for fast reactions.or you generelly have the wrong bodycombination (weight-size -fat-muscles).
or you been just too late in starting conter shoottiming :wink:
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Postby Chederer » Wed, 20 May 2009 16:58

MASTER MDMA---i currenty use a 6'2 guy with 1/11 on body fat and 10/11 on muscle is this a good body combination---becuause i did not know the body combination made a difference. i was only aware the height made a difference on my serve and backhand. should i have less muscle and more fat or what?
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Postby fernado9t0rres » Wed, 20 May 2009 17:06

TS3 in my opinion is all about positioning if you are too close to the ball when you release your swing you get all jammed up and the ball will usually sail long on a risk shot. If you are too far back and the ball is out in front you will probably just pop it up and have it smashed right back in your face. I just try and get into the best posistion possible to hit my next shot....so now give me some tips on serve


Well serving took me sometime before i could hit the lines but i find the best motion for me is federers motion and if you use that one starting aiming just before he throws ball up and dont release it only the shot button at either its highest point or just as its coming down and of course RT and LT i dont release them only shot button but it takes time to get it right what i did was go to play a friendly against anyone on the game and serve first and letting it goto deuce all the time just till i was hitting the lines if i do win the serve just retire and rematch. hope this helps :D
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Postby fernado9t0rres » Wed, 20 May 2009 17:08

when this happens your player is to fat for fast reactions.or you generelly have the wrong bodycombination (weight-size -fat-muscles).
or you been just too late in starting conter shoottiming


Well i havent got any fat on him he is 6'3 because he is supposed to be murray and about 8 on muscle and 5 on body is that a good combo?
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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Wed, 20 May 2009 17:10

CHEDERER wrote:MASTER MDMA---i currenty use a 6'2 guy with 1/11 on body fat and 10/11 on muscle is this a good body combination---becuause i did not know the body combination made a difference. i was only aware the height made a difference on my serve and backhand. should i have less muscle and more fat or what?


you must test yourself what is the best bodycombination for you.

i notice as example that its much better to create a 5-3 -9 (7-2-11) body as a 11-1-11 body . the player moves better, and he had a better flow in timing shoots :also the size is important point
the right combination of all is very important
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