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Who is the greatest tennis player of all time?

Pete Sampras
9
30%
Roger Federer
15
50%
John McEnroe
0
No votes
Rod Laver
1
3%
Jimmy Connors
1
3%
Andre Agassi
2
7%
Björn Borg
2
7%
 
Total votes : 30

Postby SundanceKid » Fri, 05 Oct 2007 07:17

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Borg retired at the ripe old age of 26, so the tennis pundits have little choice but to compare their careers between the ages of 17 and 25.

Another fun fact ...

According to the match scores listed on the ATP website, Borg bageled his opponents (sets won 6-0) 116 times from 1973 through 1981 (8 years) - compared to Roger Federer's 55 bagels from 1999 through the 2007 French Open (8 years).

... and Federer supposedly dominates the tour? Well, he does, just not like Borg did back in the day :P


in the case of borg you are right for sure. for me it sounds like, you wanted stagger federer, only coz his big career started later.

i just wanted defend federer. i've never said he is the best ever. for me it's amazing how he can dominate the tennis tour, coz today fitness and athletics are getting more and more important than ever before.

have you ever seen a player in the 60's like nadal, who often hits an incredible angular passing shot from no man's land with a balancing act?????

have you ever seen a player in the 60's like roddick, who often serves with 220-240 km'h?????

have you ever seen a player in the 60's like djokovic, who often runs for his life, and already compets to nadal's passing shots from the defense????

that's mondern tennis.

but federer is still able to stand those players and hold number one. and it's not necessary to often bagle them. i think he is a giant at all. not bigger than laver or connors at their peak, but he deserves ranging on the same level.

that's my opinion.
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Postby mcfed » Fri, 05 Oct 2007 09:47

The number of bagles does not show how dominant someone is. Maybe just how good he is in the head.
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Postby jayl0ve » Fri, 05 Oct 2007 14:22

I don't know much about 60's tennis, but Borg, Roscoe Tanner, and Ilie Năstase are almost exact 70's counterparts to Nadal, Roddick, and Djokovic (respectively). I'm not of the opinion that tennis has changed all that much since the 70's. I've watched a lot of tennis from that era, and people today do indeed hit the ball harder and run faster, but we're still playing the exact same game. Guys like Borg and Tanner could seriously WALLOP the ball when they wanted to....I don't see 70's/80's matches as being 'slow', it was just more of a thinking man's game back then. Equipment wasn't as forgiving and in a way it was more of an elite sport, you actually had to have good technique. No ugly, 'buggy-whip' Nadal-esque forehands that just wouldn't work with a wooden racquet.

So maybe players in the 60's weren't hitting ridiculous passing shots while being wrong-footed, smashing 140 mph serves, or running like a gazelle, but I'd like to see the players today try to do the things that players in the 60's/70's were doing with racquets that often weighed in excess of 16-17 oz.
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Postby oDEVLISHo » Fri, 05 Oct 2007 14:51

All that video proves is, Federer is better than Roddick. Still waiting/looking for the Federer v. Borg video. :)


True, but i think the video you are looking for would look alot like that!
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Postby Exorz » Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:16

djgazzabhoy wrote:I'm going to say pete sampras , only for the fact that roger federer is a nobcheese.

Totally Loves himself , just can't stand people like that;)


Yet you get on so well with Chris!

The irony! :lol:
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Postby jayl0ve » Sat, 06 Oct 2007 06:35

I think this thread was a bad idea... maybe "Best Serve and Volleyer of All Time" or "Best Counterpuncher of All Time" would have been a little better.
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Postby Rob ITST » Sat, 06 Oct 2007 06:45

No way. I think this is a very good thread. Everyone's debating without getting pissed, for once. And it's actually stayed mostly on topic.
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Postby jayl0ve » Sat, 06 Oct 2007 08:11

now that you put it that way, I guess this is the best thread we've had in a while.
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Postby Chris ITST » Sat, 06 Oct 2007 10:14

Until Exorz had to go and spoil it 8) .
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Postby SundanceKid » Sat, 06 Oct 2007 17:10

Rob wrote:No way. I think this is a very good thread. Everyone's debating without getting pissed, for once. And it's actually stayed mostly on topic.


i agree. maybe we should discuss now the goat status on the women tour :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Rob ITST » Sat, 06 Oct 2007 17:37

:lol: I'll start. Navratilova.
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Postby ivanhoe » Sat, 06 Oct 2007 18:09

Rob wrote::lol: I'll start. Navratilova.


Closely followed by miss Graf.
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Postby Cro Morgan » Sat, 06 Oct 2007 19:00

The best women's tennis player, bar none ...

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Postby mcfed » Sat, 06 Oct 2007 19:43

It must be Navratilova with her loads of titles etc.

And right after that Graf.
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Postby Johnnn Boyyy » Sat, 06 Oct 2007 19:58

should of been venus and serena but they wasted their talents being retarded with their other crap. but Steffi Graff... won 20+ slams... thats amazing... she won every slam at least 4 times. amazing.
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