Federer playing with new, larger racquet in Hamburg

[emate007]

English is misused everywhere, so it's hard to use it correctly. I say stuff like "It's gotten out of hand" instead of "it's got out of hand" now because of American media influence (even though in that case, 'gotten' may actually be more historically correct... but that's another topic)

I read a really interesting article a few years ago about the evolution of language, focusing on American English. The overall thesis was that because language is fluid, there really is no "correct" way to say something, only older (considered more proper to a certain extent) and newer ways. But older is not always better, as anyone who's tried to stumble through Canterbury Tales will tell you.
As long as the point is made clearly, grammatical/spelling rules are irrelevant and subject to change over time. The author went so far as to suggest that we might all be speaking a form of Chinglish in the future.
For example, why bother to say: "I will be going to the store at 3:00 PM," when everybody will understand the same message if you say "I go store 3." All the important things are there, couple nouns and a verb. Much more efficient, right? To be honest, I have a hard time disagreeing with the premise despite how jarring it sounds to hear someone speak this way.
This sort of transition is being accelerated by texting/messaging where abbreviation or complete omission of words is common.

[L Sanchez MD]

English is misused everywhere, so it's hard to use it correctly. I say stuff like "It's gotten out of hand" instead of "it's got out of hand" now because of American media influence (even though in that case, 'gotten' may actually be more historically correct... but that's another topic)

I read a really interesting article a few years ago about the evolution of language, focusing on American English. The overall thesis was that because language is fluid, there really is no "correct" way to say something, only older (considered more proper to a certain extent) and newer ways. But older is not always better, as anyone who's tried to stumble through Canterbury Tales will tell you.
As long as the point is made clearly, grammatical/spelling rules are irrelevant and subject to change over time. The author went so far as to suggest that we might all be speaking a form of Chinglish in the future.
For example, why bother to say: "I will be going to the store at 3:00 PM," when everybody will understand the same message if you say "I go store 3." All the important things are there, couple nouns and a verb. Much more efficient, right? To be honest, I have a hard time disagreeing with the premise despite how jarring it sounds to hear someone speak this way.
This sort of transition is being accelerated by texting/messaging where abbreviation or complete omission of words is common.

i c ur point

[emate007]

k

[Murderface84]

English hath Chaynged dramatically since the days of frumenty and 'humours' and capitalizing random
Words and using 'f' for 's'

[Murderface84]

On topic, I'm glad Federer is trying a bigger racquet, I always thought it was maybe a little hubris preventing him from going more modern

[Vieira151]

English is misused everywhere, so it's hard to use it correctly. I say stuff like "It's gotten out of hand" instead of "it's got out of hand" now because of American media influence (even though in that case, 'gotten' may actually be more historically correct... but that's another topic)

I read a really interesting article a few years ago about the evolution of language, focusing on American English. The overall thesis was that because language is fluid, there really is no "correct" way to say something, only older (considered more proper to a certain extent) and newer ways. But older is not always better, as anyone who's tried to stumble through Canterbury Tales will tell you.
As long as the point is made clearly, grammatical/spelling rules are irrelevant and subject to change over time. The author went so far as to suggest that we might all be speaking a form of Chinglish in the future.
For example, why bother to say: "I will be going to the store at 3:00 PM," when everybody will understand the same message if you say "I go store 3." All the important things are there, couple nouns and a verb. Much more efficient, right? To be honest, I have a hard time disagreeing with the premise despite how jarring it sounds to hear someone speak this way.
This sort of transition is being accelerated by texting/messaging where abbreviation or complete omission of words is common.

I still fully type words when I text... >.>

I think it would be jarring with that style. As long as the language was still written the same way as now, I'd be happy. There can be a classiness and fluidity about the English language that can be nice to read, and there are tonnes of ways to express things that I think could be lost with Chinglish, which is one of the few positives English has over other current languages.

[Rob ITST]

It's easy to understand someone who uses improper grammar/spelling....... if it's in a language you easily understand.

I'm like Vieira - it doesn't really matter if I'm typing a business letter or a text, I'm still going to try to do it the way I was taught in school.

[Murderface84]

I am the same way, I can't bring myself to write in that horrible text/ 'tweet' (*shudder*) language.


I have been saying for years that text messaging and the like is going to destroy the English language....witness RACHEL JEANTEL

[emate007]

I have been saying for years that text messaging and the like is going to destroy the English language

The more I think about it, the more it seems like this is the crux of the issue. Everybody thinks the way they talk/talks the way they think. And if an individual "speaks" in disjointed text message form most of the time, there's going to be issues when they have to communicate with someone who's not 'txting lol'

[Murderface84]

Yep, yep...

Although I must correct myself, English is obviously not the only language that texts are sent in.

I frequent a couple sites where people often comment in Spanish and there's obviously some kind of 'text-talk' change going on with Spanish too. 'K' instead of 'que', 'd' instead of 'de' or 'del', etc etc...also, just plain ol' misspelling/ignorance and poor grammar is VERY MUCH not limited to English. Many mexican Spanish speakers are not well educated and have atrocious spelling, which even I- somebody who is not fluent in Spanish- can tell

[Corbon]

Another loss against someone outside the Top 100 on what is almost home turf.

Do we see Federer in 2014 remaining in the Top 10 or playing at all?

[Murderface84]

Stakhovsky just lost his fourth in a row since knocking Roger out of Wimbledon

[Murderface84]

....on what is almost home turf

Croatia????

[Murderface84]

Never mind I dunno what I'm talking about was watching Umag

[Corbon]

rofl