Retirement From Tour

[Felipe.M]

I am writing this post to announce my retirement, it's a shame that the wonderful work they do on this tour, being tainted by players like AlexJasmins, and sadder still, do nothing about it. And to let you know that the same problems that arose with AlexJasmins in the semifinals of AO. The truth does not seem to be as coincidental or as normal to repeat again, this time try to gather evidence to try to show what is happening.

As I like to say anything to speak, I leave some tests I could pick from the problems I had with jasmins.

1 ° When we were in the chat, coordinate for the final, right after my match with Robbin SF Rotterdam. By joining the game, in the pretest ping always possible to observe the TE before playing, walking normally, they played the first game in optimal conditions and the following of a sudden, he froze. (I have the demo of the first game)

2 ° When it comes to unite again, the ping usually ran 3-8 seconds and completely froze like last time (I have some videos I recorded with my phone, which proves what I just said) Here I will share the links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCVHVGjMhyo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOLRHkGyku8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOLRHkGyku8

The quality is not very good, but you can see the behavior of the ping

3 ° I did a test of the stability of my connection before playing with his and how they will be able to see, is in good condition and does not have to spend this kind of thing (http://itstla.webs.com/Pruebas/Prueba%2 ... dam.png.... here's the test image with my connection).

Also as you know, a few minutes before I played with Robbin, without any inconvenience (http://itstla.webs.com/Pruebas/TE2013_003.Bmp..... Picture of my match with Robinn) You can see that the percentage of lag, there was no problem

4 ° We keep trying to unite several times, but still the same problems, in a play was accepted and resulted in the game entering the following image (http://itstla.webs.com/Pruebas/TE2013_006.Bmp).

5 ° The last thing I will say, unfortunately I can not prove it with some support, but it was pretty funny and I suspect what happened, right after telling Alex that we try tomorrow.

I have match to play with p.napalm (QF Memphis), i went back to check my connection and left stable, to join to play with an incredible lag, ping jumps very high and more than 3% of lost connections, I told you I was gonna wait to restart my pc and my default connection. I went back to chat, check my connection and again this like before, we joined again and the connection was excellent. napalm and if you read this, could attest to this. (only there was a lag problem, and it was because I myself accidentally move my cable connection)

The true this seems rather strange and what happened to me with napalm, I increased my suspicions that this hacking Alex my connection.

To end a few days ago I was talking to Robbin in the chat, and talking about what happend to me had happened to Alex in the semifinals of AO, and told me that he had also once been the same, where the ping froze nothing. Likewise MichaelD my friend, I talk very often, you tell what happened to me, and told me that he had also been the same on one occasion, many coincidences that do not add up, nose you are saying, but I'm from people who do not believe in coincidences so often given, believe in facts.

Finally It was a pleasure to compete with good players, and those who play clean, good luck to all. I hope that because of such a character, not demotivate more players.

[Michael.D]

Felipe is absolutely right. The bombarder is false, liar, marimonda, bad loser, you have to use dirty tricks to win a game. When we try to play by the R16 from Australia, we could not because the Ping froze and the same thing happened to Felipe. seems that the mods you applaud all the bad he does, because I see many complaints about thebombarder and always ends up winning and probably return to win. Definitely I have nothing more to do here.

I leave ITST

[VMoe86]

As I have said in the AO thread: The common part of these connection problems is AlexJasmins.

I've also witnessed on the TE Chat that it happened against C4iLL: No one could join AlexJasmins when he was about to play against C4iLL (their match after AO). They then played on another day, where it apparently worked again.

Against FelipeM and C4iLL there were no problems when they played AlexJasmins for the first time. However, for the next tour matches in AlexJasmins vs. C4iLL or AlexJasmins vs. FelipeM those freezes appeared. Could be a way to try playing a tough match on another day, when there is less stress. However, against MichaelD he has not played on the ITST Tour (too lazy to check for MG Tour) and there this problem also occurred and other players had that in exhibitions, too.

All in all, it's a pity to see someone leaving the tour, especially if it's someone who appears to be a really good sportsman and great player at the same time.

By the way, for connection/lag issues there are rules:

- ITST may ask a player to resolve his connectivity issues, issue a warning
- ITST may suspend a player from participating in tournaments if their connection is a source of constant complaints
- ITST will issue immediate ban if a player found to be causing lag on purpose, to gain an unfair advantage

Source: http://www.intertopspintour.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1047&t=17331

So much from my point of view, draw your own conclusions.

[Fez]

hey, Felipe. I sympathize with your frustration, but don't retire!!! That makes little sense. You contribute to the richness of the tour. Just endure the injustice a little while and things will change. Nothing ever stays the same man. Quitting seems like the last thing you should do, why let one man's actions (and perhaps the inaction of a few others) drive you out? Play on! Fight on!

[Fez]

you too michaelD?!!
What a spineless response! Do you not know how to handle adversity? Where will you go away to?

[Felipe.M]

I get tired easily, so a type discourages me, is very rude and always looking for a fight to solve these problems .... I do not like people like that, and while he's here I will not play

[djarvik]

Felipe, you sent a rather large PM to me and Cro on Friday, and on Sunday you retire...citing inaction on our part.

You want to give us a chance to respond?

Another thing, I don't like to be black mailed. I "love" Alex just as much as the next guy, but I wont be black mailed into doing ANYTHING via "I am retiring thread".

This was rather poor show from you and Michael showing support is a poor show in my book too.

We have rules in place regarding scheduling matches and we have hosts who are capable of making the right decision, given a chance of course. As it stands, if you feel someone is misleading you, cheating you, WO hunting - let the host know. If you feel a player is annoying, well, here we wont be able to help you. Everyone is welcomed here as long as they comply with the rules. Annoyance will not be why someone gets punished here.

We also have rules in place regarding lag. Filling a formal complaint with the host will go a long way, but you have to give it time. We will not act on a single complaint, not even on two complaints....especially so if they come from one player. As it stand, C4iLL didn't file a complaint, nor did MichaelD, so that leaves us with two complaints from Philipe. We cannot take action based on that.

[Felipe.M]

I will not stay silent, sorry, I can not stand people who play dirty. But here almost all support what he does, so simple, I'm going. Enjoy the tour

[Michael.D]

Felipe, you sent a rather large PM to me and Cro on Friday, and on Sunday you retire...citing inaction on our part.

You want to give us a chance to respond?

Another thing, I don't like to be black mailed. I "love" Alex just as much as the next guy, but I wont be black mailed into doing ANYTHING via "I am retiring thread".

This was rather poor show from you and Michael showing support is a poor show in my book too.

We have rules in place regarding scheduling matches and we have hosts who are capable of making the right decision, given a chance of course. As it stands, if you feel someone is misleading you, cheating you, WO hunting - let the host know. If you feel a player is annoying, well, here we wont be able to help you. Everyone is welcomed here as long as they comply with the rules. Annoyance will not be why someone gets punished here.

We also have rules in place regarding lag. Filling a formal complaint with the host will go a long way, but you have to give it time. We will not act on a single complaint, not even on two complaints....especially so if they come from one player. As it stand, C4iLL didn't file a complaint, nor did MichaelD, so that leaves us with two complaints from Philipe. We cannot take action based on that.

You never say or do anything about it, your best work is disregard

[djarvik]

One thing I don't do is disregard. Believe me, I have no issues suspending/banning people, none whatsoever. You likely to find an army of people to second this.

I understand you are supporting your buddy, but I know you have your own brain and opinion, I suggest you step back, or rather step into my right shoe....then look at the situation again. As I mentioned, I have received 2 complaints about Alex. That's it. Both from same guy. What if I told you that YOU have the same count of complaints? ...should I do something about you? ...that is just an example of course, but the truth is that tensions run high in a competitive world and people are quick to blame the other party.

I am by no means defending Alex here....I AM attacking the approach here, the "do something or I will leave" or "I am leaving cause you don't do anything". It simply wont work. What does work? ...valid complaints placed by various members against the same member. And it works like a charm.

So if you want to see something done, then next time you play ANY member AND he pulls something like that against you - you complain to me. I will then be able to take action once I have a few complains, and trust me, it will solve the problem for good.

I think the point here is rather clear for all but you Fillipe and you Michael. I hope you view this in a different light tomorrow morning.

[Felipe.M]

I get tired, I'm showing evidence .... Besides his attitude and how he addresses me, I do not like at all, I can not stand, it seems a disrespectful person, so nothing else should do something about it.

[VMoe86]

I will not stay silent, sorry, I can not stand people who play dirty. But here almost all support what he does, so simple, I'm going. Enjoy the tour

No one here supports "dirty" play (if you think Alex does these freezes on purpose, which I guess he does not since it is also happening in meaningless exhibitions), but as it is with cheese play: It takes several complaints from different players that something happens. If I run to the police and tell them to imprison my neighbour because he stole something from me there are several instances to be passed until something happens.

You never say or do anything about it, your best work is disregard

What should he do? Suspend or ban someone on the basis of one detailed report? Sorry, but that's not how it goes. Did you do your homework and inform Cro Morgan? To remind you, here is what I told you in the chat:

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Session Start: Tue Jan 29 23:10:25 2013
Session Ident: MichaelD_
[23:10] Session Ident: MichaelD_ (QuakeNet, VMoe) (webchat@190.182.52.87)
[23:10] <MichaelD_> Hi Vmoe, cannot be played by TheBombarder. Ping 190-200 but when the players go out to the field they do not move. They remain static.
01[23:10] <VMoe> Cointoss then.
01[23:10] <VMoe> Inform the host.
[23:11] <MichaelD_> oh really, is cro morgan
[23:11] <MichaelD_> sorry
01[23:11] <VMoe> No problem.
Session Time: Wed Jan 30 00:00:00 2013
Session Close: Wed Jan 30 00:01:20 2013

[Felipe.M]

Please go and four people who feel the same (Michael, Robbin, c4ill and me) I do not, you need more evidences, they have not complained, I feel badly done by them, but what I am, I will not to remain silent, is a decision made.

[Michael.D]

Please go and four people who feel the same (Michael, Robbin, c4ill and me) I do not, you need more evidences, they have not complained, I feel badly done by them, but what I am, I will not to remain silent, is a decision made.

[Woowhat]

Very interesting