Federer with Djokovic's backhand

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Re: Federer with Djokovic's backhand

Postby prince shah » Mon, 04 Feb 2013 23:14

You can even take for example the recent Roger Federer vs. Andy Murray match in the Australian Open. Federer kept trying to drive his backhand into Murray's. What happened? Murray schooled Federer's backhand, hit it to Federer's forehand then drove it cross court. If Federer sliced to Murray's forehand, Murray would be forced to hit it to Federer's backhand, which is really awkward to do, and Federer can run around it next two points or Murray would have to give Federer a good angle for the forehand. Do I know what I'm talking about? I'm breaking into the top 100 in real life this year.
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Re: Federer with Djokovic's backhand

Postby djarvik » Mon, 04 Feb 2013 23:22

prince shah wrote:Do I know what I'm talking about? I'm breaking into the top 100 in real life this year.


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Re: Federer with Djokovic's backhand

Postby JohnCurveo » Mon, 04 Feb 2013 23:40

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Re: Federer with Djokovic's backhand

Postby ICEMAN_9588 » Mon, 04 Feb 2013 23:44

prince shah wrote:You can even take for example the recent Roger Federer vs. Andy Murray match in the Australian Open. Federer kept trying to drive his backhand into Murray's. What happened? Murray schooled Federer's backhand, hit it to Federer's forehand then drove it cross court. If Federer sliced to Murray's forehand, Murray would be forced to hit it to Federer's backhand, which is really awkward to do, and Federer can run around it next two points or Murray would have to give Federer a good angle for the forehand. Do I know what I'm talking about? I'm breaking into the top 100 in real life this year.

Federer won Wimbledon final this way, "slicing" on Murray0's FH.

But it's not always possible to apply this tactic constantly.
Cause then I could say "Hey, Federer should have played more bh slice on Rafa's bh, so he would have won like 3 or 4 Roland Garros. At least".

But It's not so simple, a tennis match is played by two guys, there is also your opponent in the game.
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Re: Federer with Djokovic's backhand

Postby prince shah » Tue, 05 Feb 2013 02:07

The Federer Nadal showdown is completely different. Both of their games are very similar groundstrokes wise. Whoever has the better strategy that day will win. They both do the run around when playing each other which is very comical. The only way for Federer to beat Nadal is to not sacrifice space for the run around. Thats what Djokovic does so well, one shot before Nadal or Federer will play the run around, Djokovic attacks the open space and Fedal have to wait for another run around. By that time its over.
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Re: Federer with Djokovic's backhand

Postby emate007 » Tue, 05 Feb 2013 18:36

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Re: Federer with Djokovic's backhand

Postby ICEMAN_9588 » Tue, 05 Feb 2013 23:54

prince shah wrote:The Federer Nadal showdown is completely different. Both of their games are very similar groundstrokes wise. Whoever has the better strategy that day will win. They both do the run around when playing each other which is very comical. The only way for Federer to beat Nadal is to not sacrifice space for the run around. Thats what Djokovic does so well, one shot before Nadal or Federer will play the run around, Djokovic attacks the open space and Fedal have to wait for another run around. By that time its over.


But Federer hasn't Djokovic backhand.
Nole has a huge bh, but also a very good fh, he is really strong from both side of the court, something that Federer and even Nadal (and Murray too) are not.
Djokovic can handle the cross court rally BH-FH against Nadal, and he is hugely advantaged in the cross court rally BH-BH against Federer.
And Roger can handle this type of rally against no one of the other 3 guys.

Your tactic is right, in words.
But Federer can't apply it every time (and so Nadal against Djokovic), cause he needs to serve not well, but extremely well, for all the match.
And anyway, as I told you before, there's also your opponent on the other side of the court.
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Re: Federer with Djokovic's backhand

Postby prince shah » Fri, 08 Feb 2013 05:27

ICEMAN_9588 wrote:
prince shah wrote:The Federer Nadal showdown is completely different. Both of their games are very similar groundstrokes wise. Whoever has the better strategy that day will win. They both do the run around when playing each other which is very comical. The only way for Federer to beat Nadal is to not sacrifice space for the run around. Thats what Djokovic does so well, one shot before Nadal or Federer will play the run around, Djokovic attacks the open space and Fedal have to wait for another run around. By that time its over.


But Federer hasn't Djokovic backhand.
Nole has a huge bh, but also a very good fh, he is really strong from both side of the court, something that Federer and even Nadal (and Murray too) are not.
Djokovic can handle the cross court rally BH-FH against Nadal, and he is hugely advantaged in the cross court rally BH-BH against Federer.
And Roger can handle this type of rally against no one of the other 3 guys.

Your tactic is right, in words.
But Federer can't apply it every time (and so Nadal against Djokovic), cause he needs to serve not well, but extremely well, for all the match.
And anyway, as I told you before, there's also your opponent on the other side of the court.


I have no clue to what you just said. I said something simple and you totally confused it with something else. Watch Federer look for the run around forehand and see how much space he leaves open especially the Australian Open 2013 match versus Murray and see how Murray responds.
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