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Feels like prepatch

Postby straightcash05 » Sat, 24 Nov 2012 23:35

Anyone else feel like ts4 feels like it did prepatch? I've played a few matches the last couple days and in all 3 matches everything felt much faster. Power shots were like prepatch ones, really hard and much harder to run down. Control shots up the line felt very hard, power slices were harder than normal, serving on the lines was easier, topspin shots were higher and I could short cross a control topspin shot on the line with Neuwirth alot, which is hard to do.

I played a friendly with RLeefly the other day and beat him 6-0, 6-2, and he's probably better than me. My shots all felt like rockets. Then today I played a match with Iceman and my shots again felt very hard, and his were too.

I joined WT before these matches as well and was connected to the ts4 server. I'm 100% sure these matches were glitched. Just wondering if anyone else has experienced this lately.
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Re: Feels like prepatch

Postby L Sanchez MD » Sun, 25 Nov 2012 02:56

straightcash05 wrote:Anyone else feel like ts4 feels like it did prepatch? I've played a few matches the last couple days and in all 3 matches everything felt much faster. Power shots were like prepatch ones, really hard and much harder to run down. Control shots up the line felt very hard, power slices were harder than normal, serving on the lines was easier, topspin shots were higher and I could short cross a control topspin shot on the line with Neuwirth alot, which is hard to do.

I played a friendly with RLeefly the other day and beat him 6-0, 6-2, and he's probably better than me. My shots all felt like rockets. Then today I played a match with Iceman and my shots again felt very hard, and his were too.

I joined WT before these matches as well and was connected to the ts4 server. I'm 100% sure these matches were glitched. Just wondering if anyone else has experienced this lately.


I played a bit recently and power slices are lethal!
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Re: Feels like prepatch

Postby ICEMAN_9588 » Sun, 25 Nov 2012 12:05

Like I told you yesterday after our match, I started playing on line in autumn of 2011, so I played only after the patch.
Cause of that, I can't really say what's the difference between pre and post-patch period.
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Re: Feels like prepatch

Postby Daxter1975 » Mon, 26 Nov 2012 08:06

Yes, i feel the same. Power Slices are unbelievable fast. And cross passing shots are easier to play (against my S&V guy).

And i think it´s easier to play powershots. Thats nice for >90 Power Players, but destroys the game completely. :(

And normal long Topspin Shots are now really good passing shots. And approach slice cross passing shots are the hell..... :shock:
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Re: Feels like prepatch

Postby Corbon » Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:43

Come on, prepatch angles were freaking absurd, even with orange wings. Also players were much faster and you could literally tell no difference between Speed 60 and 80. Even after getting lobbed while hugging the net, my Sp 60 player would comfortably reach the ball almost every time. Spin serves were also ridiculous. Couple that with less errors and with most perfect shots hitting the lines and you'll get a Virtua Tennis feel out of it.

Why are people using full power long line top spin passing shots, flat shots are faster and just as long?
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Re: Feels like prepatch

Postby straightcash05 » Tue, 27 Nov 2012 23:25

I remember prepatch fine, and it feels alot like that, power shots are much more effective, especially the power slice, it's super hard like it use to be. Serving is more effective, drop shots are super easy to hit and land closer to the net more often. Topspin shots are much faster and you can hit them with great angles much more often. Everything feels like it to me. Not that I mind, I prefer it, much better and more exciting.
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Re: Feels like prepatch

Postby tnypxl » Fri, 30 Nov 2012 03:34

I have to agree. This feels like I different top spin 4 than what I've been playing the last couple weeks. Just played a guy where his powered flat shots were insanely fast. It seems too, that power serves out wide are all but impossible to return with decent timing and enough time to get back in position.
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Re: Feels like prepatch

Postby tnypxl » Fri, 30 Nov 2012 03:41

Corbon wrote:Come on, prepatch angles were freaking absurd, even with orange wings. Also players were much faster and you could literally tell no difference between Speed 60 and 80. Even after getting lobbed while hugging the net, my Sp 60 player would comfortably reach the ball almost every time. Spin serves were also ridiculous. Couple that with less errors and with most perfect shots hitting the lines and you'll get a Virtua Tennis feel out of it.

Why are people using full power long line top spin passing shots, flat shots are faster and just as long?


Top spin shots are all about controlling your opponents position. Top spin power shots are harder to hit on the run. This is especially true when your player's power rating is under 65.
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Re: Feels like prepatch

Postby ICEMAN_9588 » Sat, 08 Dec 2012 11:02

tnypxl wrote:I have to agree. This feels like I different top spin 4 than what I've been playing the last couple weeks. Just played a guy where his powered flat shots were insanely fast. It seems too, that power serves out wide are all but impossible to return with decent timing and enough time to get back in position.


Return using the slice.
They are really effective, yourself said that.

It's a matter of habit. You were used to the prepatch TS4, you'll get used to TS4 after-patch, you'll just need some time.
Just try to take advantage from these new "shots".
It's the only thing you can do, in my opinion.
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Re: Feels like prepatch

Postby jayb1988 » Sun, 06 Jan 2013 00:00

They've definitely taken all the patches off I think, maybe this will stop the glitch? Shots are faster and deeper so doesn't seem to lead to as many unrealistically long rallies with balls being chased down constantly, powerful shots stay hit and any gaps can be exploited which feels more like real tennis.

The points generally seem shorter and I'm starting to think pre-patch was more fun, makes for a lot of tense games and even matches. IR is less effective with the serve being slightly more so, the only annoying thing is that S&V players will have a field day as even someone with a volley stat in the 40's can chip a serve in and be unbeatable at the net! Lobs are useless once again also!
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Re: Feels like prepatch

Postby Corbon » Wed, 09 Jan 2013 18:29

Balls hit the lines (or close) more often but the angles are not as extreme as pre-patch. Also didn't see any difference in spin serves and power slices.

They kept the new stats on the coaches, though while I agree that Quah was even more ridiculous with 30 wings, they didn't have to scramble the points in such an idiotic manner. Other changes like Rabari and Madr were too subtle to notice.

Edit: Players are faster than before as well, somewhere between pre-patch and after. I created a 98/98 (with 40 Speed) and he's flying all ocer the court. It's ridiculous and makes Speed a more trivial stat again.

Edit 2: Is it just me or are returns better now? If so, excellent fix.
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Re: Feels like prepatch

Postby DennieFR1908 » Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:16

Still feel like something changed with the game, it seems Alot more variable which is great. It's a little odd none of the staff even gave us any info on the matter like they would before. Did 2k go for the previous patch or did I somehow magically got better lol.
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Re: Feels like prepatch

Postby Cro Morgan » Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:37

DennieFR1908 wrote:It's a little odd none of the staff even gave us any info on the matter like they would before.


At this point, we know as much as you. 2K isn't saying anything.
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