Top Spin 5

[ICEMAN_9588]

The majority of the current male roster are inactive so most of them could be in legends category and would be nice to get the top 32 active. Think career mode as a pro would be nice option and some classic match ups with scenarios. Also maybe in career mode your character ages and skills decline/injuries etc.

Totally agree on these points. It would be more realistic to have a progressive age in "carreer" mode, with injuries and also variaton of your shape and fitness (they could depend on number of tournaments played, for example, so you'll have to be careful about year schedule). And for sure, your player should be able to play more than one event in a month...

I think the best tournament schedule in carreer mode in tennis videogames was by "Smash and court tennis pro tournament 2", ranking system point was pretty much the same as real, and even the suddivision of tournament was nearly similar to the reality.

For what concerns the real players included in the game, I've also asked myself why tennis videogames can't be like, for instance, soccer and basketball videogames. I mean, why in tennis VG there "can" only be just 8-16 real players involved.
It's a matter of money, of license, or something else?

[MrATP83]

Probably due to money and if other companies have exclusive rights. If the player creator/editor is good enough and you can share created players then alot of players can be replicated. I prefer players to be created by the game designers though.

[SlicerITST]

For what concerns the real players included in the game, I've also asked myself why tennis videogames can't be like, for instance, soccer and basketball videogames. I mean, why in tennis VG there "can" only be just 8-16 real players involved. It's a matter of money, of license, or something else?

Image rights are not combined in tennis like they are with for example football. Coming to an agreement with a few sources compared to having to bargain with every player individually is a lot easier. They still have to pay a huge amount but overhead is smaller. At least, thats how i always understood it. TS4 decided to put time, effort and money in getting the most top guys plus legends. I think that was a good decision.

On top of that are some exclusive deals. Like Nadal that was only available on the PS3 in TS3.

[ICEMAN_9588]

For what concerns the real players included in the game, I've also asked myself why tennis videogames can't be like, for instance, soccer and basketball videogames. I mean, why in tennis VG there "can" only be just 8-16 real players involved. It's a matter of money, of license, or something else?

Image rights are not combined in tennis like they are with for example football. Coming to an agreement with a few sources compared to having to bargain with every player individually is a lot easier. They still have to pay a huge amount but overhead is smaller. At least, thats how i always understood it. TS4 decided to put time, effort and money in getting the most top guys plus legends. I think that was a good decision.

On top of that are some exclusive deals. Like Nadal that was only available on the PS3 in TS3.

No it's been a good decision, I'm not sayin the contrary (even if a lot of users complain about Agassi in Pro Tour ), I was just thinkin that it would be very good if also tennis videogames could offer more real players than just 8.

Talking about carreer mode, I think also fake players on Tour (like Cisolla, Singleton, Julio, ecc.) should be level 20, or at least it should be possibile to get them to level 20, but with lower stats and skills than the real ones.
When I play agst cpu in first rounds of the tournaments, it's always 60 60 61, 61 60, too easy even at expert level.

[JohnCurveo]

Better IA. Adjusting default camera view (not reslistic when ur player runs from net to the bottom of court). Better offline gaming. Better serve animations. Serve position limits. I don't like "risk" factor, this is a videogame after all. I would change "risk" for a better relation between "stamina" "timing (too soon, too late etc)" and "shot position".

[Corbon]

"Too late" shots should almost always go out or into the net, just like perfect shots sometimes go out as well. "Too soon" shots should still have a 50% chance or so to go in or do some damage. That's for ground strokes, when you're standing right at the net and trying to put away a baby drop shot that goes wide instead because you have 40 Volley, that's getting a bit silly. Also I have never managed to hit a smash into the net, in fact, it's very hard to hit a smash wide or long at all.

I have played matches where no one ever hit the net during a rally (longest rally ever was 114 shots in a CPU double). Power and line shots in TS3 will result in a lot of nets (I never use line shots, always power) and timing is more crucial. Also in TS3 the CPU always serves at near full power, in TS4 you get plenty of first serves by Roddick in the 160-170 km/h region for no apparent reason.

[ICEMAN_9588]

Exactly, but I think that's also a problem of player setups. For instance, Federer has only 60 at serve, are you kidding me?

For what concerns net playing, I hate when I hit an acceleration, my players starts coming to the net, the ball is returning high and slow...and he lets it go down, and only then he hits the volley, that comes out weak and inaccurate, no matters which button I push.

[Corbon]

For what concerns the real players included in the game, I've also asked myself why tennis videogames can't be like, for instance, soccer and basketball videogames. I mean, why in tennis VG there "can" only be just 8-16 real players involved. It's a matter of money, of license, or something else?

Image rights are not combined in tennis like they are with for example football. Coming to an agreement with a few sources compared to having to bargain with every player individually is a lot easier. They still have to pay a huge amount but overhead is smaller. At least, thats how i always understood it. TS4 decided to put time, effort and money in getting the most top guys plus legends. I think that was a good decision.

On top of that are some exclusive deals. Like Nadal that was only available on the PS3 in TS3.

Didn't know that about Nadal, that's interesting. And Sharapova was certainly too expensive to be included in TS4.

[Corbon]

Exactly, but I think that's also a problem of player setups. For instance, Federer has only 60 at serve, are you kidding me?

For what concerns net playing, I hate when I hit an acceleration, my players starts coming to the net, the ball is returning high and slow...and he lets it go down, and only then he hits the volley, that comes out weak and inaccurate, no matters which button I push.

Fed's serve really pisses me off. I mean I can hit 200+ km/h on some occasions but it's never an ace because 60 Serve won't allow good placement. Safina's serve on the other hand is nothing like she served IRL (better than Serena, right...)

There's another issue with net play, in some cases the player refuses to hit the ball at all because it's coming over the net at a height too high to play a normal volley but too low to smash it either. The game thinks that the ball is "out of reach" because it's not programmed to do something in that situation. This often happens with scrambled top spin shots.

Also Spectacular Volleys is a waste of a skill spot, why do players like Sampras and Rafter even have it? It's rarely triggered and if you don't hit a winner with it, you'll be wide open to get passed.

[Tuurbine]

The developers should play Tennis ELbow and then develop Top Spin 5 based on the most positive things of Tennis Elbow.