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Postby Otlichno » Mon, 07 May 2012 21:45

True it was pretty bad. Usually there are crazy desynch in matches, but never so much lag. :? It's become quite random to be honest, sometimes I have great matches where everything is fine, but then an hour later, it's filled with crazy lag and desynch's. :? Really weird.
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Postby Elias » Tue, 08 May 2012 03:22

[edit] censored myself, some wrong info in my post, check Manutoo post below [/edit]
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Postby Elias » Tue, 08 May 2012 05:10

Elias vs San99 6-0 7-5 (Stepanek vs Murray)

Nice match with a nice fella :)
After a pretty straightforward first set to warm-up San99 gave a good fight in the second set. Overall good serves and a pretty nice net play :)

it was lag free, no desyncs.

note : after the match we tested by curiosity some djokovic-nadal match up, and we couldnt play (crazy desyncs).

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http://depositfiles.com/files/vx3dl9mg7
http://www.mediafire.com/?276su83gl3q64g6
http://dl.free.fr/uExtri5Td
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Postby manutoo » Tue, 08 May 2012 05:21

Elias wrote:When the player joins you get this screen (clik to enlarge) :

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there you can see :

1/ the ping (varying in realtime, there you can have a quick check to the ping stability)

2/ auto-delay : the game will sync the two clients on some delay, generally not lower than 100ms. its the way the game works, syncing the clients on a predefined delay with some security margin.

3/ half-delay : a value wich may be approx 1/2 the auto-delay i guess.


the half-delay is editable, you can decrease or increase it by steps.


Actually, if you set the Delay to "Auto" then it'll take the value of the "Auto-Delay" ; it's the only use of Auto-Delay.
Normally, you should never manually set the Delay lower than the Auto-Delay, else you might face some bad lag...
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Postby Elias » Tue, 08 May 2012 05:35

manutoo wrote:
Actually, if you set the Delay to "Auto" then it'll take the value of the "Auto-Delay" ; it's the only use of Auto-Delay.
Normally, you should never manually set the Delay lower than the Auto-Delay, else you might face some bad lag...


Ok thanks for precision Manu, i wonder why my half-Delay wasn't on Auto by default -.-

let's fix it to Auto then.
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Postby VMoe86 » Tue, 08 May 2012 21:54

Clay warrior Llodra in my hands beats Federer controlled by D. Ornelas: 6-3, 6-1. Combined net approaches: 0/4. :lol: Each of us had around 20 aces, but he had 9 (!) double faults. His defence has to improve and it was my defence with Llodra that put doubts on his side and he started to go for more. W to UE was 17 to 5 for me and 18 to 18 for him.

There were Desyncs, though. I hosted and they were happening when he served. So a couple of times I gave back points, because a Desync happened when he hit an ace or a winner on the first shot after the serve.
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Postby eliomelma » Tue, 08 May 2012 23:03

Win against Tonigno in Quarter finals 6-2 6-1. He wasn't in his best day and the match doesn't have story. One strange thing: his CRC not was right, the last number was 3 and not 4 (wawrinka). Maybe because when he hosts the match, he selected tournament mode and not free mode, we relaunch de match with free mode and his CRC was not right.
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Postby VMoe86 » Tue, 08 May 2012 23:09

The reason is that he set "Auto Position" to "Average".
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Postby San99 » Tue, 08 May 2012 23:14

VMoe86 wrote:Clay warrior Llodra in my hands beats Federer controlled by D. Ornelas: 6-3, 6-1. Combined net approaches: 0/4. :lol:

Congrats, what do you mean by that ? You didn't win a single point on the net with Llodra ?
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Postby Elias » Thu, 10 May 2012 18:03

Otlichno (Simon) def. Elias (Stepanek) 6-3 6-3

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dmo file :

http://depositfiles.com/files/4fj4l4sz8
http://dl.free.fr/dqH7Ddkl7
http://upthe.net/hqf19bdija5y

Well, nice match. First i have to congrats Otlichno because he improved a lot his play level last times, he played very solid here, and he's now a very serious client :lol:
I wish you good luck in the final :)

Though, not to lower his merit in any way, i still have to say again that 20% speed is way too much, in an even level of play field (i think we have a pretty close level right now), here the diff was 22% (72 vs 94). to summarize, Simon is everywhere when Stepa is struggling to catch balls pretty often, just move me left/right then finish me :)

I could hold some serves games with good serving, i even served many firsts as second serves because i knew i had very poor chances in the rallies. Also i played S&V as much as possible, and as well took the net when possible.

So, here we are, like we already imagined, in the final tournament phases, why be gimped with a weaker char (than the top ones), at some point, if it's too much of a gimp, it's not that fun to battle if you know that your chances are really tiny and this is more stat than skill dependant. Therefore i'll probably do like others from now on, use a tier1 char :) and more and more people will do, so we really need to reduce the gaps between chars, even if we still keep tiers, to find an acceptable balance and still promote various match-ups.

note : we played without desyncs (maybe one or two at match start but that's it.
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Postby Otlichno » Thu, 10 May 2012 18:38

True, Simon is pretty overpowered. I only pick characters who I've lost to in the last tournament, and it was a loss to Simon. :lol: Though you are right, it was far too easy, especially as our matches are usually very close.
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Postby VMoe86 » Thu, 10 May 2012 22:28

And Llodra has been stopped by Djokovic: 3-6, 4-6. So it is eliomelma against Otlichno in the final -- have a good match there!

In the first set it was all on serve until 3-3, when he broke my serve for the first time. I wasn't really good at the net, because online and offline are different things and so I made some more errors there. However, I could actually stay in the rallies until the stamina depleted. In the second set I had a bad service game early on, but also had one brilliant return game in which I broke his serve.

Regarding Desyncs: We started with me hosting, but it was unplayable when he served. Desync after Desync (court was Roland Garros). Then he hosted on some Challenger Tour clay court and except for one or two Desyncs at the start of the match it was flawless.
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Postby eliomelma » Thu, 10 May 2012 23:06

VMoe86 wrote:And Llodra has been stopped by Djokovic: 3-6, 4-6. So it is eliomelma against Otlichno in the final -- have a good match there!

In the first set it was all on serve until 3-3, when he broke my serve for the first time. I wasn't really good at the net, because online and offline are different things and so I made some more errors there. However, I could actually stay in the rallies until the stamina depleted. In the second set I had a bad service game early on, but also had one brilliant return game in which I broke his serve.

Regarding Desyncs: We started with me hosting, but it was unplayable when he served. Desync after Desync (court was Roland Garros). Then he hosted on some Challenger Tour clay court and except for one or two Desyncs at the start of the match it was flawless.


Nice match, before the match i thought that with llodra he plays with SV always but he comes to net a few times and hit from baseline with regular shots. i think that llodra was weaker than Djokovic, this is the difference. In next tournament i will try with new young players. i think that in 1000 and Slam i play with my favourite, but in 250 and 500 i choose varoius players.

Eliomelma(djokovic)-Vmoe86 (llodra)6-3 (1 set)
https://rapidshare.com/files/2103283915 ... e8_6-3.dmo
http://depositfiles.com/files/71zkkw0j9


Eliomelma(djokovic)-Vmoe86 (llodra) 6-4 (2 set)
https://rapidshare.com/files/1991528117 ... e8_6-4.dmo
http://depositfiles.com/files/ekyctj94x
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Postby Elias » Thu, 10 May 2012 23:45

Elio i see you posted two .dmo files, this means probably you hosted two times (1 set each time). i forgot to tell you about this last time but when you host, try to set up a best of three it's better, because if you re-host in the middle of the match the stamina is reset. it's not much a bid deal in a fast match but in a long one it really can make a difference :)

Good luck Eliomelma & Otlichno in the Final :)
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Postby eliomelma » Thu, 10 May 2012 23:53

Ohhh, you are right, i did no think never about stamina, right, i will not make this error in future...excuse me
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