Warm-up Tournament 1 official thread

[SlicerITST]

Lets use this thread to discuss your experiences with our first TE11 tournament.

Sanchez and me played this afternoon. He played with Dimitrov and i played with Del Potro. Unfortunately we only had time to play one set.

My experiences where good. At least for me the timing was good and had no lag. Just some desynch in the beginning of the match. The only thing im uncomfortable with is the serve. I feel as there is an entirely different timing to the aiming in an online match. I can only do a quick tap to aim the serve. Most of the time that means it either goes into the net or out though.

[eliomelma]

why we don't records the matches? in this way we can discuss well

[eliomelma]

great match between me(federer)and polca456321(Simon). i win 6-2 6-3 but it is not easy, my opponent break points and hit very deep, hard to return. the key of match for me has been my serve, i made many aces in topic moment of matches. we had few lags , but it is interesting, in his serve only, not during rallies or in my serve.The game is beautiful, as in real tennis, if you want take more risk because your opponent returns every ball, you know that you shuold make more errors.if you want to wait your opponent to mistake, you can 't take risk and returns easy ball. In top spin 4 more press and more angles you take, in this game if you not are concentrated, you put the ball out many and many times.
wait for statistics screen and match point video

[polca456321]

Yeah, really a great match, and for those who like real tennis (not only hitting every ball in a crazy angle without any risk to miss), this game is just fantastic online. A lot more fun than Top Spin 4. Great game elio

[eliomelma]

Thanks friend really good match,the difference as i say to you was federer, very strong!

Excuse me for italian language

[eliomelma]

Match point Eliomelma(federer) vs Polca456321(simon)
http://youtu.be/_Em6ZQo5Jp0

[C4iLL]

Bouhouhou Polca you lost

[polca456321]

Haha yeah but it's just because of the player
No seriously I lost but it was against a greater opponent than me, so no regrets for me. Hope you'll lose too

[VMoe86]

San99 and I just played our match and due to quite disturbing Desync problems it was annoying for some parts of it. In the match log it says "Unknown Code" after the result, which does not appear on the match log against LSanchez the other day. He was definitely running the same version of Tennis Elbow as me, so I don't know where this is coming from. Now the match log for this match seems a bit incorrect, but see for yourself below.

The Desync problems only happened when serving, never during a rally. Besides these, the match was fun!

I won 7-6, 6-3 with Kohlschreiber against Murray and let me provide you the most important statistics:

23 -- Aces -- 22
1 -- Double Faults -- 4
27 -- Winners -- 15
22 -- Unforced Errors -- 27
2/8 -- Net Approaches -- 6/16
2/7 -- Break Point Conversions -- 1/1
73 -- Total Points Won -- 58

The most important shot was the serve: No doubts about it. I'm tempting to switch from Fish to Isner for the next tournament. He was playing on a good level, he was getting many balls back and hitting some nice shots on the run. Especially some of his passing shots resulted in me staying back, where I was quite comfortable with Kohlschreiber.

We played with SIM Controls and I made more errors than I do offline, but also more winners (compared to playing a Master 1 Murray on Sim/Slow/No Previews controls).

He was countering some of my shots with great depth, but mixing it up with slices, top spins, accelerations required him to move better and when he didn't I got a weak reply -- it resulted in a winner for me most of the time.

Getting into such a rally was the most important task, so the return was another key. I was returning a bit better and this got me the match.

Good match!

[djarvik]

YEAS!!!! Murray is down! Murray is down!






Seriously though, VMoe86, I agree, the serve stats needs a bit of tweaking. We will get there. One of the issues is that there is very little "middle" ground. It is either lots of aces - or lots of return winners and great returns. But we can still do a better job at this.

The key is that it works both ways. Both players have same advantage in serving. We may need to get used to these serves a bit as well.

De-syncs. I will talk to Manatoo about all possible reasons for them. The more we understand why they happen the better we can avoid them.

[C4iLL]

Murray was certainly not in a good shape to loose against Kohlshreber

Anyway, it would be fun if we comment about matches like that on every tournaments. Looks like there is already more "communauty spirit" here than on the TS tour ^^

[VMoe86]

Kohlschreiber got Murray's number: http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=K435&oId=MC10

Anyway, it would be fun if we comment about matches like that on every tournaments. Looks like there is already more "communauty spirit" here than on the TS tour ^^

On the PS3 Tour there was/is a match reports thread, but apparently with declining interest in TS4 people didn't bother anymore. I liked "Match Stories" threads in GST on Wii, but on the Wii there wasn't a possibility to chat (which you can do on PS3, Xbox360 and PC). Would be nice to keep it up.

Seriously though, VMoe86, I agree, the serve stats needs a bit of tweaking. We will get there. One of the issues is that there is very little "middle" ground. It is either lots of aces - or lots of return winners and great returns. But we can still do a better job at this.

The key is that it works both ways. Both players have same advantage in serving. We may need to get used to these serves a bit as well.

Against the AI it isn't a huge problem: The serve stats are realistic, because the AI returns really well, but doesn't serve perfectly all the time. However, online it is a different story, because the reactions of humans when returning are worse, but the serves are more consistent than from the AI.

As you say, both have this "advantage", but the serve shouldn't be that important. I don't know if there is a good solution for it, but tweaking serve stats (especially consistency) is one parameter. I haven't played with average auto-positioning in a while, but returning should be easier with it. Maybe the game should offer a possibility to adjust "Return auto-positioning"? This shouldn't be difficult to implement.

De-syncs. I will talk to Manatoo about all possible reasons for them. The more we understand why they happen the better we can avoid them.

So this problem is known, that's good. It would be a pity if TE got ruined for some people by this problem.

[eliomelma]

Massive win for Elias, 6-1 6-2, in my training matches against itst members he has been the stronger opponent for me , very good player. Waiting for Kyuuji results, that should be the best player , he plays world tour at Incredible 1 difficult, for this i think that he is the favorite player of tournament( he could be my opponent in quarter Final)

[Elias]

Anyway, it would be fun if we comment about matches like that on every tournaments. Looks like there is already more "communauty spirit" here than on the TS tour ^^

i agree it would be a very nice thing to have one thread open for each tournaments and match reports inside (like posting match stats screenshots etc); though it gets the forum loaded way more, it brings a lot to community spirit (this is one thing i liked very much in the past from the other DMT world tour site).

As for our match with TheCooler618, i would say nice match besides the fact we had to retsart several times because of DESYNCS. When i hosted i had constant desyncs on my serve, we finally ended playing TheCooler hosting the game, but he had a lot of desyncs on his serve games, and only when serving, i didn't had any on mine. Besides this we had a constant 200ms ping and the rallies were lag free and flawless to play, very pleasant.

I don't remember having thos desync issues last year when playing TE online, or not much, is this due to the patch/mods we are using here ?

Another strange thing was his character, Nishikori, had a red shirt (?).
Nishikori in sam patch has a white shirt. I checked after our match playing offline and Nishikori had a white shirt then.

We played with the same version of the game, updated TE, with sam patch + itst patch, sim controls, no preview.

[Elias]

just quoting some ManuToo post :

that Mod likely bundled some files from v1.0c that have changed in v1.0d, thus the desync.
In a general way, you shouldn't play with a Modded game online, except if you know for 100% sure what you're doing...

So i guess our desync issues has probably something to do with our updated version of the game and some outdated files in the patch.