Rule Test Tournament 2012

[I.Maturano]

1-17-2 with gallo is allowed

[DennieFR1908]

yes I know already changed my message.

[djarvik]

Thank you guys.

The one Grey only and 42 min rule makes all the extreme setups limited. They are still available, but no longer extreme. Some coaches that are not meant to be affected will be. That is the cost of having a simple rule. By my calculation, none of the coaches affected are irreplaceable. Most of them were either heavily used (Rabari, Bab, Gallo) and will benefit from the rules, or were seldom if ever used and now may not be available at all. In every "war" there are casualty. My heart goes out to them.

[DennieFR1908]

If I must gues it would be so the tour would get more variety, you cannot spend as much to OB or DB to optimize your power or wings as you want since you also have to add a level to S&V.. An idea I would also like, altough I have to create a new setup for it.

[DennieFR1908]

Thank you guys.

The one Grey only and 42 min rule makes all the extreme setups limited. They are still available, but no longer extreme. Some coaches that are not meant to be affected will be. That is the cost of having a simple rule. By my calculation, none of the coaches affected are irreplaceable. Most of them were either heavily used (Rabari, Bab, Gallo) and will benefit from the rules, or were seldom if ever used and now may not be available at all. In every "war" there are casualty. My heart goes out to them.

The one grey only also makes all the extreme setups limited as far as I can think of man! could you please give me an example because without that 42 at least rule there would be alot less casualty's

[I_Zooloo_I]

if you remove the 42 rule rabary and neuwirth are still as good as before and wil be OP

[DennieFR1908]

Hmm I don't see them as "extreme setups". I like the rule itself, just couldn't understand the motivation. That one simple rule will completely change the tour it makes the difference between small change (just toning down the real extremes) or big change (whole tour mixed up).

[I_Zooloo_I]

well they have the very best OFB combination mixing skills, power and wings

if the idea is to bring more variety in the tour (and a chance for all rounders?) they have to be toned down

[DennieFR1908]

Yes I agree with that m8 Like I said I like the idea.

[djarvik]

Gallo with 0-18-2. 92 power as opposed to 89. Stamina in 79 orange instead of 81 red.

Rabari - power limited to 83 (other setups bring it up to 87) a bit less on strokes and a bit less on the Power+serve.

Snezlana - less on strokes, stamina, speed.

Babb - power limited to 84, stamina to orange, serve to 91.

There are few others positively affected.

Can you show me casualties that you think "matter". Just curious.

[DennieFR1908]

Gallo with 0-18-2. 92 power as opposed to 89. Stamina in 79 orange instead of 81 red.

Rabari - power limited to 83 (other setups bring it up to 87) a bit less on strokes and a bit less on the Power+serve.

Snezlana - less on strokes, stamina, speed.

Babb - power limited to 84, stamina to orange, serve to 91.

There are few others positively affected.

Can you show me casualties that you think "matter". Just curious.

Just a difference in vision. In extreme setups I ment going for the 98 power etc. I saw the 92 powered Gallo already and also the other seutps but didn't consider them as extreme setups.

BTW did you know you can still get 97 serve 87 power babb? 3-17-0

With casulaties that matters i ment nothing big, they are still available but in other combinations. Like my 0-15-5 Neuwirth setup that I have since the beginning who has 38 volley. There are numurous other setups with the same kind of thing. Just the normal setups of Rabari, Babb, Gallo etc who also has around 38 volley. Like I said it's the difference between small and big change. I see you want to go for the big change, I like that this will give the tour a whole new variety.

[djarvik]

Yes, on Bab... but then you have to deal with 47 speed and more importantly 69 stamina. For an all arounder this type of stamina is great, but for a power-guy - not so much.

So its personal? You gonna lose your setup? Well, many people will. All the Welshes for example


Remember, this rule is not only to please you. If anything, the polls about Power and Power players consistently showed over 50% people wanting a change or a ban, while Welch consistently showed sub 50%.

As I mentioned earlier, you cannot balance one coach without affecting others. This is the best we can do for now. Lets tests it.

The casualties, as I mentioned, were not used before and will not be used now, I am talking about weaker coaches.

[Tamthewasp]

I'm not at all bothered about Rabary n Neuwirth changing. I think this is great it opens the door for all rounders and will create a hell of a lot of variety. Also I think slavina will still be very strong and peto chesire but it makes Pavel douzhy and Mario Dipesa strong again. Now Bickham n Grody are going 2 be fun 2 choose.

My only problem is there is 2 much choice now

I know their is a few of us already having matches against each other in comply with these rules.

I used a 4 4 12 Dipesa against zooloo and was a fun match. Took me a set 2 adjust 2 tactical aspect of this but after that you could clearly see the benefit during rallies.

Well done management. (except cro)


Edit.. It was'nt a 4 4 12 Dipesa I used vs zooloo. It was a Dipesa thougb

RIP 2 the fallen comrades. You will never be forgotten.

[Tamthewasp]

Had a match with Ary. My Pavel Douzhy vs hos coach. The balance seems to have returned with more emphasis on working your into the point rather than previously when you had such strong weapons to just smash your way through an opponent.

It was a very close match tight rallies. Just generally a lot more fun feeling.

[DennieFR1908]

So its personal? You gonna lose your setup? Well, many people will. All the Welshes for example

Lol nah it had nothing to do with personal interest, just that I tought those setups are not overpowerd, but these rules will give the game more variety so I'm happy

Remember, this rule is not only to please you. If anything, the polls about Power and Power players consistently showed over 50% people wanting a change or a ban, while Welch consistently showed sub 50%.

Ofcourse not, but the fact ppl like it also sais alot.. I didn't expect you would come up with such a good solution, awesome work of the Management, my compliments.