Regular Tour Rule Suggestion #3

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Restrict attributes for the regular tour in TS4?

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Yes, but this needs a few adjustments.
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Postby djarvik » Sun, 26 Feb 2012 23:53

It's fine Ali, no need.
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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Sun, 26 Feb 2012 23:56

No I changed my mind..

Fh 73
Bh 63
Serv 79
Vol 50
Pow 72
Stam 73
Speed 62
Ref 58
Coach: sotirios eroglu
Skill : instant rocket

Wat say you djarvik, not overpowered in my opinion..
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Postby edlglide » Mon, 27 Feb 2012 05:00

Ali-Iqb93 wrote:No I changed my mind..

Fh 73
Bh 63
Serv 79
Vol 50
Pow 72
Stam 73
Speed 62
Ref 58
Coach: sotirios eroglu
Skill : instant rocket

Wat say you djarvik, not overpowered in my opinion..


I'd say he's overpowered compared to the rest of the sim roster. He'd be one of the top 3-4 guys in power but also has solid speed and better wings than the other power guys.
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Postby emate007 » Mon, 27 Feb 2012 06:06

Even I would be competitive with that kind of player.
Too balanced, no weakness. Which is not a bad thing, but he wouldn't fit on the sim tour.
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Postby DennieFR1908 » Mon, 27 Feb 2012 10:52

edlglide wrote:
Ali-Iqb93 wrote:No I changed my mind..

Fh 73
Bh 63
Serv 79
Vol 50
Pow 72
Stam 73
Speed 62
Ref 58
Coach: sotirios eroglu
Skill : instant rocket

Wat say you djarvik, not overpowered in my opinion..


I'd say he's overpowered compared to the rest of the sim roster. He'd be one of the top 3-4 guys in power but also has solid speed and better wings than the other power guys.


nope he would have lowest power of all ob.

how about something like this.

5-14-1 franko, 4 fh 0 bh

fh 78
bh 58
serve 81
volley 53
power 74
stamina 63
speed 49
reflex 69

strong points, serve, fh and reflex.
weak points, speed, stamina, bh.
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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Mon, 27 Feb 2012 10:59

Yes Dennie the setup you proposed is also good for me
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Postby DennieFR1908 » Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:18

yea.. I would like to see a somewhat offensive AA, so speed, stamina etc not to high and power, wings and serve pretty good.. something like this.

Hui Fang Zhou 7-8-5

fh 72
bh 62
srv 72
vol 54
pwr 69
sta 67
spe 62
ref 72

somewhat comparable to lopez but worse stamina and speed, but a little better wings and serve.

A setup like this would motivate me to give it another try on the sim tour.
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Postby Ary1g » Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:36

When did this thread become a sim tour player thread? Anyway, Sotirios Eroglu is good enough for the regular tour if there was restrictions on attributes. He is almost the same as Rabari without CPS imo.
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Postby VillaJ100 » Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:47

edlglide wrote:
Ali-Iqb93 wrote:No I changed my mind..

Fh 73
Bh 63
Serv 79
Vol 50
Pow 72
Stam 73
Speed 62
Ref 58
Coach: sotirios eroglu
Skill : instant rocket

Wat say you djarvik, not overpowered in my opinion..



I'd say he's overpowered compared to the rest of the sim roster. He'd be one of the top 3-4 guys in power but also has solid speed and better wings than the other power guys.


I agree. If he had a wing at like 50 then it could be ok.
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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:04

DennieFR1908 wrote:yea.. I would like to see a somewhat offensive AA, so speed, stamina etc not to high and power, wings and serve pretty good.. something like this.

Hui Fang Zhou 7-8-5

fh 72
bh 62
srv 72
vol 54
pwr 69
sta 67
spe 62
ref 72

somewhat comparable to lopez but worse stamina and speed, but a little better wings and serve.

A setup like this would motivate me to give it another try on the sim tour.


Yes I agree.. Every sim character should have such strong stats to make them enjoyable to play with
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Postby Ary1g » Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:07

VillaJ100 wrote:
edlglide wrote:
Ali-Iqb93 wrote:No I changed my mind..

Fh 73
Bh 63
Serv 79
Vol 50
Pow 72
Stam 73
Speed 62
Ref 58
Coach: sotirios eroglu
Skill : instant rocket

Wat say you djarvik, not overpowered in my opinion..



I'd say he's overpowered compared to the rest of the sim roster. He'd be one of the top 3-4 guys in power but also has solid speed and better wings than the other power guys.


I agree. If he had a wing at like 50 then it could be ok.


Too much power to combine with Instant Rocket. Maybe this build could be more of an option. Still very strong power player. Huge serve and good power.

Sotirios Eroglu: Instant Rocket
FB:62 Optionally: 47 Or: 67
BH:62 Optionally: 77 Or: 57
Serve: 90
Volley: 63
Power: 73
Stamina: 61
Speed: 53
Reflex: 66

Low stamina and speed, but still think it's too strong imo.
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Postby DennieFR1908 » Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:35

Ali-Iqb93 wrote:
DennieFR1908 wrote:yea.. I would like to see a somewhat offensive AA, so speed, stamina etc not to high and power, wings and serve pretty good.. something like this.

Hui Fang Zhou 7-8-5

fh 72
bh 62
srv 72
vol 54
pwr 69
sta 67
spe 62
ref 72

somewhat comparable to lopez but worse stamina and speed, but a little better wings and serve.

A setup like this would motivate me to give it another try on the sim tour.


Yes I agree.. Every sim character should have such strong stats to make them enjoyable to play with


yea but I can't see it as overpowered tough.. would be a good competitor for Fortis and has comparable stats as Nakamura and Lopez. bh 62 is also not to high if u ask me cuz fortis has 82 fh 62 bh.. but you can always make his wings 77 57 if ppl will think it is to strong this way.. I would just like to see a setup like this I think it isn't there yet.
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Postby Ary1g » Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:30

I have added a rule of max attribute points total = 530 points.

http://www.intertopspintour.net/forum/v ... 990#222990

With that rule, most coaches can only be used with level 19 builds. However, Babb, Gallo, Welsh and Rabari will only be available with level 18 players. Neuwirth can only be used with level 19. Which might be the only problem with the rule, still I believe this could be really interesting.

This will eliminate all arcade setups, while still keep all coaches. This rule doesn't only affect the top builds, it also reduces everyone elses a little bit, though it will make the biggest difference for the coaches available at level 18 only, as they all exceed 530 points when used with a level 19 player.

I think this might be the way to go in this game. I even think that there might not be need for any power or speed restrictions, because the max points will automatically affect those insane setups to because less powerful.

What do you think? :)

I can post all stats of Welsh, Rabari, Babb, Gallo and Neuwirth if someone want to see what they'll look like with this rule.
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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:31

Lol only welch is overpowered.. No need to restrict the levels of other coaches.. If you restrict the levels on other coaches as well then again there will be difficulty for those coaches to counter welch the same way as it is now
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Postby Ary1g » Wed, 29 Feb 2012 13:56

Ali-Iqb93 wrote:Lol only welch is overpowered.. No need to restrict the levels of other coaches.. If you restrict the levels on other coaches as well then again there will be difficulty for those coaches to counter welch the same way as it is now


That's where I believe you're wrong.

A level 20 Welsh has 550 attribute points total. While most coaches stop at 540 or less. Thereby setting the limit at 530, makes all coaches who stop at 540, stop at level 19 with 528. While Welsh can only be used with level 18 to not exceed 530, which gives him only 521 attribute points total and only 3 wing bonuses. Therefore instead of having 10 attributes more than anyone using a 540 coach, Welsh have 7 attributes less than the same coach.

I think this rule will create a more interesting and challenging tour, because the level of player builds goes down a little, especially weakening Welsh, Babb, Gallo, Rabari, and all 20-0-0, 0-20-0, 0-0-20 builds, . It will be a little bit more like Sim Tour, while still totally different. Opening up for more 540 coaches to take over the tour.
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