counters to lob service returns & defense lobs on rallies

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counters to lob service returns & defense lobs on rallies

Postby libatako » Thu, 03 Nov 2011 05:20

I'm basically having trouble against it....any tips on countering it?

My character shimmies back to adjust is basically the main problem, i mean im not holding the direction, just the shot...yet it moves back to adjust to the lob..........its basically my main problem online right now.......when serving someone returns with a lob or during a rally when im dictating ...its used to get back into the point.

Not at my wits end about it....but its getting there
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Postby ILuvBillVal » Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:30

Yeah inform the host! :lol:
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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:31

Yea it's very annoying.. I almost hit winners during the rallies when suddenly my opponent hits a very high bounce return to get back in rally and I have tried everything to counter such a high ball shot but most of the times I lose such rallies.. But it's allowed right?
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Hi

Postby Avinash PatelBANNED » Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:48

Instead of mkin updates to reduce pwr plyr ability. Think the nxt update shud reflect this massive glitch and be more balncd. U r leading in a point and suddenly the oppnt hits a very qwik high lob which u can't do a drive volley becuz ur plyr is pinned to the baseline or retreatz to the baseline...

Ths resets the whole rally. It's kind of a glitch retn but during rally.
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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:52

Yea agree with you avinash... I have been the victim of this type of play against the same opponent many times
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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Thu, 03 Nov 2011 11:00

Funny thing is that in real Life tennis you get punished if you hit a high bounce ball in middle of the court but in top spin 4 it is completely opposite.... I have tried everything against it.. I tried to return these high bounce shots with top spins and flat shots but everytime I was punished by my opponent
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Postby LokiSharpShootr » Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:07

Im going to try to say this the least disrespectfull way possible.

You 3 appear to be average-good player, when you see your opponnent is running behing the ball and will not get in time to do a attacking shot and will do a defensive shot(thats what it its a defensive shot to try buy you time to return to court{have you sen Nadal pre 2009 playing?}] hit R1/RB and run to net and prepare a power volley, and if they do a short ball use a short slice or a drop-volley.

Thats all i can say to you 3, now you can continue complaining about something that is completely fair and its the main foundation of playing DFB, real life or Top spin that is hit deeps shots and buy yourself time to reposition yourself or you can do something about it.

PS: Avinash more and more im convincing myself you have never played tennis besides as a recriational sport and so you should not try to say what is realistic and what its not
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Postby Painted Crystal » Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:23

Loki, are you a Pc or a Mac??
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Re: counters to lob service returns & defense lobs on rallies

Postby Fifa Tee » Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:24

libatako wrote:I'm basically having trouble against it....any tips on countering it?

My character shimmies back to adjust is basically the main problem, i mean im not holding the direction, just the shot...yet it moves back to adjust to the lob..........its basically my main problem online right now.......when serving someone returns with a lob or during a rally when im dictating ...its used to get back into the point.

Not at my wits end about it....but its getting there



its like applying the "moon ball" strategy in real life, if you really are in control of the rally you should be inside the court hitting shots and contemplating finishing at the net. people who use the lob against me are only successful when i am cleanly on the baseline, meaning i am not really on top of the rally. When i am on top of the rally and somebody lobs a shot, i take it on the volley or semi volley. The lob is not a problem, my advice = Play more aggressively inside the court.
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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:29

Yea I know it is done to buy more time but if I go to the net to hit a powerful volley then my opponent hits another high top spin and I m unable to hit that powerful volley.. I don't know whether you understand what I m trying to tell you but these are not like normal defensive shots rather they are very high bounce and when the ball bounce on the ground my player is stucked on the court and I cannot attack that ball.. I don't have the video of it but when I m attacking and almost about to hit winner then he hits in the mid court and gets enough time to reposition himself.. I m not complaining but rather I m just asking how to counter it in the best way because I ve tried everything but I can't figure it out
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Postby ILuvBillVal » Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:57

I was under the impression that OP was referring to the actual LOB return. As in the dumb shit you see on World Tour when you're beating one of those losers and they start playing like crack babies.
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Postby C4iLL » Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:25

Honestly, since that patch, lobs become way too easy to do, and particularly overpowered.

As some people say before, they looks like a glitch on some occasions, especially in end of race/run, because they are automatically "in" and unreachable.

I've test that, and it looks like the effect of the "monter defense" setup : you play a lob, and the ball gets automatically a fast moon direction, and the point is won.

It's really boring, for any kind of style, and before the patch, i didn't see that one time.... This problem + the slide serve + lag, are the main (and the last) problems of TS4.
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Postby LokiSharpShootr » Thu, 03 Nov 2011 20:05

Ok there is a massive hole in your guys point and that is tha ive never even used this defensive lob you guys speak of, i use defensive control slice and defensive control top spin.

I use lobs when my oponnent hits a weak volley and just glues himself to the net(which is kinda stupid, if you wanna play at the net you gotta one or two steps back, real life or TS.)
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Postby ILuvBillVal » Thu, 03 Nov 2011 20:08

Are we talking about lobs or top spin here? Why the **** did the OP say lobs and now everyone is talking about top spins? You guys are **** confusing the **** out of me.
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Postby ILuvBillVal » Thu, 03 Nov 2011 20:09

And yes, a lot of aspects of volleying in this game are completely flawed and I agree 100% with using lobs in that instance.
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