I Hate World Tour

[Bretton JamesBANNED]

Title speaks for itself; I love the concept of seasons and that, but what I cannot stand are the people on there. All they do is drop shot after drop shot and there's genuinely no way of countering it because if you re-dropshot them back theyll re-re-dropshot you. Ridiculous, completely ruins the game.

[Firderis]

I agree, those people on World Tour do almost everything for success.

BTW: http://www.intertopspintour.net/forum/v ... hp?t=15298

[SBR Ironik]

Title speaks for itself; I love the concept of seasons and that, but what I cannot stand are the people on there. All they do is drop shot after drop shot and there's genuinely no way of countering it because if you re-dropshot them back theyll re-re-dropshot you. Ridiculous, completely ruins the game.

I think I played you few days ago. If I remember well, you used a "power setup" with something like 98 power and 48 speed, right ?

Something like half of your points were aces.
I have 92 forehand and used almost only control shot. Despite that you kept on running and hitting back with power, again and again.

So yes, I started to do some drop shots. This is one of the best tactics to counter setups like yours.

So maybe if you often play against "drop shot cheeser" , it is your style which is involved and not only other's.

I've played many "drop shot cheesers" but when they realize this is useless against me, they stop. If they don't, they lose. ^^

By the way, I have the feeling that less and less WT players are using drop shots. Maybe I'm wrong. Who knows.

[Saarbrigga]

1 strange thing about the WT:

If you play the women s tour, there play 80% men.

If you play the men s tour, there play 80% women.

(in quick games, not tournaments).

How can you join the women s tour with a male player, vica verca?

[I_Zooloo_I]

you dont need to spam dropshots to beat power players tbh...

[ray237]

1 strange thing about the WT:

If you play the women s tour, there play 80% men.

If you play the men s tour, there play 80% women.

(in quick games, not tournaments).

How can you join the women s tour with a male player, vica verca?

Direct matches lobbies are shared between male and female tour. I don't know why but it's so.

[Bretton JamesBANNED]

Title speaks for itself; I love the concept of seasons and that, but what I cannot stand are the people on there. All they do is drop shot after drop shot and there's genuinely no way of countering it because if you re-dropshot them back theyll re-re-dropshot you. Ridiculous, completely ruins the game.

I think I played you few days ago. If I remember well, you used a "power setup" with something like 98 power and 48 speed, right ?

Something like half of your points were aces.
I have 92 forehand and used almost only control shot. Despite that you kept on running and hitting back with power, again and again.

So yes, I started to do some drop shots. This is one of the best tactics to counter setups like yours.

So maybe if you often play against "drop shot cheeser" , it is your style which is involved and not only other's.

I've played many "drop shot cheesers" but when they realize this is useless against me, they stop. If they don't, they lose. ^^

By the way, I have the feeling that less and less WT players are using drop shots. Maybe I'm wrong. Who knows.

Yes I did use a power setup and you are correct with the build up, 48 on speed and 98 on power. I hope you aren't insinuating that this is cheesy by saying half my points came from serves is very unreasonable, they definitely built the point up but if my strength is the Serve and groundstrokes, shouldn't I be able to utilize it effectively?

I'm not targeting you, you're a great player whose gamestyle is very defensive so fair enough if you threw in dropshots to counter my style of play. Running 15-20 ft behind the baseline where the guy runs and smacks his racket on the floor and coming up with a deep fast slice that lands just by your feet is also something I find extremely unrealistic and see frequently on the World Tour.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but performing a drop shot 5-6 times in a rally can be surely regarded as borderline ridiculous and awfully cheesy? It has nothing to do with my style (regardless if I can counter it or not), it is exploiting the game unfairly.

Really? I get the feeling that the presence of WT players (especially defensive) using drop shots is consistently there and more people use it. Either way SporTec, this wasn't a personal message directed at you, I just cant stand how many people use this continually when they are on the backfoot as a means to win the point.

[djarvik]

Personally, 98-100 power is just as bad as constant drop shooting. In terms of exploiting the games loopholes. Both are very much counterable, but both are very cheap in my eyes.

For the record, I have no issue winning both, I just find it boring, one dimensional and it totally kills the fun for me personally.

[Mack2300]

To be honest, I have played WT quite a bit but I haven't encountered that much cheese. The only thing that really bugs me is when people use rt + x (dropshot) as a volley when they are at the net. That seems really cheap to me. Either attempt a proper volley or don't bother at all.

[Bretton JamesBANNED]

Fair enough, I must be having a bad day then

[PerfectAce]

To be honest, I have played WT quite a bit but I haven't encountered that much cheese. The only thing that really bugs me is when people use rt + x (dropshot) as a volley when they are at the net. That seems really cheap to me. Either attempt a proper volley or don't bother at all.

Sorry mate, but I completely desagree. What´s the problem to use drop volleys? Maybe it can be considered cheesy when overused, but say that the shot itself it´s not a "proper" one?!?! This is nonsense for me...

[SBR Ironik]

I totally agree with djarvik.
In terms of fun & frustration, both are awful.

You're a good player, you definitly gave me a hard time ^^ but, for me, it was kindda boring...
As far as i remember i never use dropshot twice a rally (except after a lob) but i did use it a lot against you despite my usual style...
I have nothing against you personaly, i just wanted to point out something you seemed to forget.

Now you know what others feel playing against a good player with a power setup

By the way, i agree with you bretton James. Drop shot abuse is a plague

[Avinash PatelBANNED]

I usd to use dropsht expert but stopped in spirit of itst

I also use high power setup. There r a lot of hi power players and kplyrs in real ATP that hit 15 -20 aces every mtch and have big shots. Like del potto...
But dropshot expert I find vry unrealistic. I used to use it but now I see how unfair I vas plying.
Avi

[farshad]

I usd to use dropsht expert but stopped in spirit of itst

I also use high power setup. There r a lot of hi power players and kplyrs in real ATP that hit 15 -20 aces every mtch and have big shots. Like del potto...
But dropshot expert I find vry unrealistic. I used to use it but now I see how unfair I vas plying.
Avi

Yeah! tennis became physical more than ever nowdays but that still doesn't mean a high power player can hit 100% powershot left to right non-stop! thats still unrealistic.
im happy for you though!

[djarvik]

I can be very "physical" with my 52 power I can! When I am in control of the point.

Honestly, 80-85 power is what I think is aggressive baseliners should CAP at. If it goes any higher, then your strokes should actually go down to high-mid 60s.

Anything above that is lame. Why lame? Because it gives you an advantage (if used right) that is not supposed to be there ...because the game has a magical button called RB, that "snaps" your player a good hitting position completely disregarding the speed stat in the process. It is very clear if you look at the animation just before your player hits the ball....it looks like you are a good 2-3 feet away from the ball, then you magically zzzzooooooommmm into the spot and hit the shot. If you are a power baseline, try to play without that button....and see how many balls you will reach and how many outs and miss-timed shots you will hit. (assuming your opponent can move the ball around a bit). Sadly, this was a problem in TS3 as well. It is still here.

This supposed to be a reposition button, AFTER the shot. Instead, it acts as a "helper" getting into position BEFORE the shot. That is what I find lame and that is the primary factor in low speed still being effective. It renders your position skills almost useless and all you have to worry about is timing.