Drops everywhere.

[el duuderino]

i couldn't agree more. this game is just rampant with cheesy gameplay. i guess people have a win at absolutely any cost. i just lost to this kamikazeejeeper chump for the first time in about 20 matches, and he literally drop volleyed EVERY point. not just each point, but nearly each and ever shot was a drop shot. i lost in a boring as all hell tie break, but it's just killing the fun in this game.

people r such morons

[SIeeepy]

Ok i have to admit that I am guilty of overusing the drop volley a little and i'm going to change that (sorry about that REDACTED. But when the ONLY serve you hit is the cheesy out wide bomb serve that makes my animation freeze and you hit a winner before my character has a chance to even MOVE on EACH one of your service points, I think I have the right to use my drop volley as much as I please ) But I don't abuse the drop volley like some people. I will instead STRATEGIZE (key point ) and push my opponent back, approach the net, and then, after they are BEHIND the baseline, i'll hit a drop volley. And there ARE people worse than me. I have played kamikazeejeeper a few times and yeah he drop volleys EVERY point. Its super annoying. But due to the mechanics of the game, sometimes its the only shot possible to hit without setting yourself up to be passed. For example, if I'm serving and volleying and my opponent hits that annoying cheesy short slice return that has no pace and should be an easy shot to hit but for some reason isn't, anything BUT a drop volley will be a sitting duck. Or when your opponent is a douche and hits a drop shot while you're at the net, hitting a drop volley/shot back seems like the appropriate response lol

As for drop shots, I played this one guy who would drop shot on the return of serve. I still won the match but I have been playing and watching tennis my entire life and I have NEVER seen a professional hit or even attempt such a shot. I have the Drop Shot Artist skill and the ONLY time I ever use the drop shot is when I'm in an offensive position (inside or on the baseline) and/or my opponent is behind the baseline. It is completely unrealistic to hit a drop shot when you are 20+ feet behind the baseline, or stretching and on the run.

[ANILTJE]

due to the mechanics of the game, sometimes its the only shot possible to hit without setting yourself up to be passed.

I have been playing and watching tennis my entire life and I have NEVER seen a professional hit or even attempt such a shot.

I think you said exactly want I am trying to say.
People just need to remember what you see on television or are able to do on the court yourself in real when playing ITST. That goes for the drops and dropvolleys but als using "too easy" setups.
I am not gonna call names . But I know a player who uses stick beserker and shot counter.
That setup has 39 on volley. This player comes to the net a lot. The only reason that works is because when he is at the net he hits about 98 % dropvolleys.
Yes it works but if you really want to be that kind of player that comes to the net. Take a chance and take a setup that is a volley guy or an allrounder with a bit on volley lol. And hit some good volleys. So you don't need to go for drops all the time as it is maybe the only way to win a point.

[MrMackNasty]

Ok i have to admit that I am guilty of overusing the drop volley a little and i'm going to change that (sorry about that MrMackNasty. But when the ONLY serve you hit is the cheesy out wide bomb serve that makes my animation freeze and you hit a winner before my character has a chance to even MOVE on EACH one of your service points, I think I have the right to use my drop volley as much as I please

Your serious? 106-115 are bomb serves? Your guys groundstrokes were awful. Not like i was tramlining. Also duece side court I was serving up the middle at least half of the time catching you off guard due to the fact your guy was standing so far outside.Im sorry sleepy but you used the drop shots at least 10x in that set(not a lot) but more then half were in a defensive position seeing as they were my service games.

[ANILTJE]

I think it's best we don't mention names. I don't want this thread to becomes a trash thread for it to be closed.

[SIeeepy]

Ok well like one in every 5 were down the T i admit and that was great trickery. I couldnt really tell if you were tramlining or making it seem that way trying to confuse me lolol. That was good I just thought it was annoying how maybe half the time you were hitting swinging volleys from no mans land after you served. Or maybe im thinking of someone else? Idk but there are people that do that and it bugs me soooo much!! Im not trying to be a trash talker or anything, im just trying to protect myself from any backlash i may get from my drop volley/drop shot use seeing as i have both those skills lol. I'll try my best to be as fair as possible. And some of those drop volleys in a defensive position were accidents lol. Sorry about that. Im trying to anticipate your next shot and im like programmed to hit a dropper. I dont hold any animosity. No hard feelings <3

[MrMackNasty]

I never mentioned or name or anything. What do you mean swinging volleys? When your returns come up so short its an approach shot? That might be what your thinking of. And I would never ever tramline. I have no need for it and would never play that way. I always make sure I move my guy back to the center or damn near it. I have certain positions I must be in for my serves and different serves for those positions. I never named you in anything so I just dont appreiciate you saying I was cheesing because I have a successful serve when you were the one with nothing but drop volleys and defensive drop shots. I don't want to fight though. Just don't name people. Espically when they weren't even doing anything cheesy. They just have a sucessful serve technique that is completely fair lol.

[SIeeepy]

Sorry dude. My bad won't happen again. Please don't hate me!! Love <3 and out of respect/good will i wont use that same character next time we play. ITST match or not

[MrMackNasty]

Lol its cool man no hard feelings. We all are aware of whats wrong and right now anways with the new thread the management team made yesterday. So its all good in the hood lol...

[djarvik]

Hug it out guys

On the subject:

I am not buying for a second the notion of "I have the skill and therefore I need to use it every 2-3 points, because I have nothing else and otherwise my setup is useless".

Both Drop Shot Artists coaches are beasts. Both have SOOOO MUCH more to offer then just drop shots. Drop shot skill there to make your drop shots better, not to make you use them on every point. That is just blah meh pooo!

Welsh: Hmmmm 90 strokes? Really? and the only way to score is drop shot? Dammn. I have seen plenty of good Welsh players. I think I am a decent one myself. This is the second most powerful setup after Rabarri for me and NOT because of drop shot. You can Control Shoot ANY opponent with that, hardly miss, get to all balls, and..... if you just happened to have a game point or a break point - play like you on steroids.

I say if you feel the only way to win with Welsh is to use 80 drop shots per set - drop him, drop him now! Pick a different coach cause you are really clueless (I am not addressing anyone in particular, just in general).

Bickham: This is an all around setup. This is a setup that supposed to "do-it-all"...but instead anyone I play who uses this setup does only two things (in fact it is one thing as the command is the same for both shots) drop shots and drop volley. I think you should never pick this coach if all you plan to do is this. This is an advanced coach so to speak. If you lacking timing and strategy, you will always feel overwhelmed using him and will feel like you have to hold that RT/R2 and drop, drop, drop, drop. That is not because this coach otherwise is useless, it is because most likely you are useless. Sorry, true story. Again, I am not addressing anyone in particular in this thread or any other, just speaking my my mind.

I may not be the best player, fastest guy or the best button presser out there, but I am pretty good at devising a strategy that works based on what you are good at. So long as you can execute it. If you can't - then use another setup and strategy. I am more then willing to help anyone who asks.

There is absolutely no justification to build your Tennis style on using drop shots and drop volley on every second point. They are way too easy to execute compared to real life. This is not a "Style", this is cheese. This is using an in game flaw to gain easy points and wins.

No one here can say that drop shots are hard to do and drop volleys are hard to do. This is simply the farthest thing from the truth.

[ANILTJE]

Ouch Haha. Good post. I like that IF you feel ur gonna need to do drops over and over ditch the coach hahaha. Right on the money.

[supinesmokey13]

Hug it out guys

On the subject:

I am not buying for a second the notion of "I have the skill and therefore I need to use it every 2-3 points, because I have nothing else and otherwise my setup is useless".

Both Drop Shot Artists coaches are beasts. Both have SOOOO MUCH more to offer then just drop shots. Drop shot skill there to make your drop shots better, not to make you use them on every point. That is just blah meh pooo!

Welsh: Hmmmm 90 strokes? Really? and the only way to score is drop shot? Dammn. I have seen plenty of good Welsh players. I think I am a decent one myself. This is the second most powerful setup after Rabarri for me and NOT because of drop shot. You can Control Shoot ANY opponent with that, hardly miss, get to all balls, and..... if you just happened to have a game point or a break point - play like you on steroids.

I say if you feel the only way to win with Welsh is to use 80 drop shots per set - drop him, drop him now! Pick a different coach cause you are really clueless (I am not addressing anyone in particular, just in general).

Bickham: This is an all around setup. This is a setup that supposed to "do-it-all"...but instead anyone I play who uses this setup does only two things (in fact it is one thing as the command is the same for both shots) drop shots and drop volley. I think you should never pick this coach if all you plan to do is this. This is an advanced coach so to speak. If you lacking timing and strategy, you will always feel overwhelmed using him and will feel like you have to hold that RT/R2 and drop, drop, drop, drop. That is not because this coach otherwise is useless, it is because most likely you are useless. Sorry, true story. Again, I am not addressing anyone in particular in this thread or any other, just speaking my my mind.

I may not be the best player, fastest guy or the best button presser out there, but I am pretty good at devising a strategy that works based on what you are good at. So long as you can execute it. If you can't - then use another setup and strategy. I am more then willing to help anyone who asks.

There is absolutely no justification to build your Tennis style on using drop shots and drop volley on every second point. They are way too easy to execute compared to real life. This is not a "Style", this is cheese. This is using an in game flaw to gain easy points and wins.

No one here can say that drop shots are hard to do and drop volleys are hard to do. This is simply the farthest thing from the truth.

what would your strategy be for liseth agiular 9-6-5 i prefer 10-6-4 but im afraid the 64 stamina is to low, and alex bickham 7-6-7.

[Tuurbine]

All I could say is that if people keep playing 10 feet behind the baseline I will keep doing drop shots.

If we want to do a SIM like experience, then the volley should be limited also, because nowadays you dont ever see a player doing more than 15 volleys in a match, and that is in grass cause in clay or hc just happens once every leap year.

I can stay hours and hours saying what could also be called cheese play, soft service for example, I am surprised it hasnt even been mentioned.

Also drop shots as I mentioned in another post before, is a very wide term. We have different ways of making a drop shot in the game.

Its not the same making the drop shot when the opponent is 10 feet behind the baseline that when the opponent is in a normal position.

Its not the same making the drop shot from inside the court that standing 10 feet behind the baseline.

Its not the same making a drop shot after a 50 something rally than making it like a serve return.

[djarvik]

Liseth Agiular 9-6-5

I would place all points into FH making the setup as follows:
FH-83 BH-51 SER-72 VOL-68 POW-57 STA-67 SPE-71 REF-71

Skills: Volley Shot Artist & Slice Invasion

I would use Slice on BH 90% of the time. Only hitting over the ball into the open court. Should my opponent decide to exploit my BH, a 3rd slice and on will VERY sharp and I would not mind BH to BH exchange at all!

On my serve I would SV about 25% of the time, one every 4 or so, randomly. I would also "fake" SV 25% of the time. I would Serve and rush the net the other 25% and play baseline game the remaining 25%. Basically giving my opponent different looks and randomizing them.

I think 72 serve allows for a good placement if not power. If my opponent pushes returns deep, I would hit inside out FH. There is always enough time to do that if your opponent pushes deep top spin returns. 83FH combined with added bonus from Inside out button should yield a very good shot.

When SVing, I would try and use B button. Since I mostly SV as a surprise tactic, chances are I will catch my opponents return high in mid air, so slice volley will only give him more time to pass. Anytime I would SV I would look to put it away.

When fake SVing I would use Slice approach shot, short cross or deep down the line.

On returns games I would try and return to middle of the court a lot. Since I don't have a lot of speed to chance down the balls and counter shot, I would try to cut down the angle first. I would use a slice return if I feel the server is going to serve to my BH. I would mix in a few short top spins and deep top spins, just too keep the opponent honest.

If I get into the rally on returns games, I would look to finish the point fast. Either gamble on Inside Out Forehand, or get into a BH to BH exchange with me using slice. Any ball that is mid court and shorter then usual I would attack and go to the net.

This is a fun setup yo use, not easy to use, but I think it can be rather effective if you can keep your cool and execute. You to learn to live with the fact that you will be overpowered at times and out-ran at times. But you have to keep your head in the game and chip away points.

[Tuurbine]

@Djarvik

You are right, Welsch is a great coach, I can play control shots for hours now, but it is pretty frustating when you have guys that throw everything at you, even the kitchen sink, and play 10 feet behind the baseline playing catch the ball. With a well done drop shot you move them out of their "comfort zone" once, then they go back 10 feet and do the same, so I do the drop shot again, then the same happens for 10 more times till the opponent realizes that he has to play closer to the baseline or he will suffer another drop shot point....... So that is what happens usually, they will get closer to the baseline, and then it is much easier for me to win with control or power shots rather than having a 60 plus rally every single time.

Tennis is a mind game and playing with your opponent mind is a very powerful weapon, and the drop shot is just that.