TS4 Sim Rules and Exhibition thread (Hawkeye's Version)

[Hawkeye Miihawk]

Hey guys, I would like for a sim tour to begin. I came up with rules that I think would help create a diverse sim tour.


RULES
Minimum of 50 volley

The coach Pei Jing Quah (Topspin invasion, Monster Defense) is banned.

The coach Jon Samala (Instant Rocket, Monster Defense) is banned

1) Customs with a power rating of 69 points or less.
You can create any type of player you want, as long as your power stat is 69 points or less.

2)Customs with a power rating between 70 - 79 points
Your strokes (backhand/forehand) cannot surpass 79 points.

3)Customs with a power rating of 80 points or more
Your storkes (backhand/forehand) cannot surpass 69 points.


I'm always up to test these rules out with anyone, and you can also try them out with others who are open to the ideas. This would help greatly, and I would love to read your comments. Also plz test to see if you can create any monsters with these rules as well.
Feel free to post what you think about the rules, how your matches were, etc and what you would like to change about it. Thank you.

(Mods: Sorry, but I'm not sure if you want a universal thread for all the ideas. I thought it would be convoluted and figured maybe separating them might be best.)

[MysteryPlayer]

Is this for men and women tour? Their should be a height limit six feet and up should mostly be offensive. A weight limit as well because purple will comer out with her man players. When will it start? Then what about the slice invasion and the posion slice. The idea off playing with no coaches. I like it.

[MysteryPlayer]

80 should ner the max power. In stats I dont think people should have anything passed 85

[Baghdad Baghdatis]

Is this for men and women tour? Their should be a height limit six feet and up should mostly be offensive. A weight limit as well because purple will comer out with her man players. When will it start? Then what about the slice invasion and the posion slice. The idea off playing with no coaches. I like it.

@ Mystery Player - I appreciate you inputting but I have seen your comments about this on another thread regarding the height / offensive argument and to be honest I don't see the slightest bit of sense in it I am almost tempted to say you are pulling our legs

I mean, buddy, come on, why does a player who is over 6 feet tall need to be offensive? They may be a serve volley player with no offensive attributes what so ever. Tall does not necessarily mean strong in all areas so I think this small detail needs to be put on the back burner.

But yes the idea of playing with no coaches or bronze / silver coaches should be considered as an option for sure.

@ Hawkeye - I will deal with you later when I have more time to write

Good thread by the way, I absolutely think the SIM tour thoughts, trial runs and preparation needs to have its own thread. It is shame some of the latter posts from the "Topspin Invasion" thread can't be moved here as well?

[MysteryPlayer]

I didn't think about that but most people create tall players and make them all defensive off style cause alot of people dont come to the net. They make them so fast that it is unrealistic

[tigerofintegrity]

I didn't think about that but most people create tall players and make them all defensive off style cause alot of people dont come to the net. They make them so fast that it is unrealistic

Not really. Tall players on the tour these days are pretty damn fast, maybe not the fastest players but they can sure run. Just look at Del Potro and Soderling. They can get to balls fast but they don't look pretty doing it. I don't see the need to put a ceiling on the creativity of coming up with a player. That's largely irrelevant to the game.

@Miihawk : Does your system allow for any other coach to be used other than Quah?

[djarvik]

Two words - Monfils and Murray.

[Hawkeye Miihawk]

On the height issue, in TS4 doesn't it only affect your character's reach? In TS3 I remember people saying it had multiple effects, but not in TS3. If it's reach only then I don't see a reason to put any limitations on height at all.

80 should ner the max power. In stats I dont think people should have anything passed 85

Can you explain further why you want power to max out at 80, and no stat should pass 85?

@ Hawkeye - I will deal with you later when I have more time to write

I can't wait to read what you have to say .

@Miihawk : Does your system allow for any other coach to be used other than Quah?

Yes, any coach that is within the 14 ofb/dfb cap, besides Pei Jing Quah, is allowed. The cap, by default, eliminates certain coaches that require a minimum of 15 ofb/dfb or more.

[MysteryPlayer]

I think anything on 85 is to much. And if you get rid of that coach I think the other topspn coaches should be eliminated as well as the two slice coaches. The speed only matters if the player is real tall and has a speed of 70 and above

[supinesmokey13]

I think anything on 85 is to much. And if you get rid of that coach I think the other topspn coaches should be eliminated as well as the two slice coaches. The speed only matters if the player is real tall and has a speed of 70 and above

so lets have height restriction then. tigerofintegrity asked me to come up with stats that could used in a sim tour and i gave these you could help out and try them i made some for serve volleyers witha max sv level of 15 here they are SV players 1. 12,0,8 2. 15,0,5 3. 10,5,5 for everyone else i.e. OGB,DFB, and all rounders here you go 1. 4,10,6 2. 3, 6,11 3. 6,6,8 4. 6,7,7 5. 7,5,8 6. 8,2,10, 7. 9,6,5 8. 12,0,8 9. 10/0/10 10. 5,5,10 11. 4,7,9 12. 4,3,13 13. 3,5,12 14. 4,4,12

[tigerofintegrity]

Actually, height does have several noticeable effects in this game, at least for me. It does indeed give you more reach which is much more noticeable when it comes to returning serve. I've played with a minimum height and a maximum height player and it's far easier to get to returns with the taller guy. The smaller guy gets aced or stranded more often.

It also improves serve. The serving is more consistent and there's slightly less risk when going to big serves and more angle.

On the flip side, I do notice that they feel clumsier too. They are slightly less agile especially when hitting slightly out of reach shots. They'll usually stumble a little and kind of flip it weakly back whereas shorter guys seem to have better balance and hit better shots when it comes to this.

I actually do find there are pros and cons to both so in that respect, I don't think we need a height restriction. Besides, the game already does that for us. I believe the maximum is 6'4'' which is shorter than most of the taller guys on tour.

[MysteryPlayer]

And at 6'4 your guy should not be flying the court at 70 speed that is what I am talking about with height

[djarvik]

[tigerofintegrity]

What are you talking about Djarvik? He's only 4 foot tall in this photo!

[djarvik]

OK, I'll try again: